RACIST WOMAN CONFRONTING A MEXICAN LANDSCAPER

All the Europeans wanted was a better life for their children. They were fleeing persecution back home. The Natives should have learned to be more tolerant.

 

You are making my case, bluebird.

Everyone has the right to disagree on a topic and with a president. But when people start with dehumanizing anybody in a discussion, it to validate a different set of rules for them to play by- and that invariably means unfair and double standards. Consider the number of posts here that speak about Trump and start with such things. Strictly rants, emotional outbursts of people incapable of a rational perception of facts. I'm not saying all the facts are Trump positive, just that if you can't see anything but what you have chosen to believe, you're fooling yourself- and not others.

Now just imagine what kind of outrage there would be from the left if Trump had been the person saying what Maxine Waters did- telling people to hunt down anyone in the opposition, harass them unmercifully in public when they were doing something like- eating dinner. That's street-gang mentality, pushing right to the edge or inciting physical violence.

We've seen dozens of justifications for the Waters train wreck, and I've yet to see any serious condemnation from the left. That tells me that they approve of such conduct, or at least so fear being attacked by their own people they are afraid to speak out and call for reason. I think if a private citizen had got a bullhorn and promoted that in public, he would probably be in jail right now- we have laws against hate speech, inciting violence, riots, etc.

I assure you if Trump had been the person doing what Waters did, he would be catching all kinds of hell from his own supporters as well as an army of the extreme lefties who would go unhinged over it. In any situation, if you can't reverse the characters in the situation and see the same conduct- you have no credibility. Now you can deny that until pigs fly, but you know damn well it's true.

You should try being reasonable and respectful- it opens doors. I don't mean agreeing with someone else's positions, just not coming in with a self-righteous bully attitude.

 

I've done enough study on this to say that your conclusion is an understatement. It's one thing for individuals to be disreputable, but the facts show our governments words and promises were nearly always of the "forked tongue" kind. And of course, justified in the minds of most people who wanted what other people had.

 

Yes, and when Europeans came, they raped, murdered and tortured natives, and sold any survivors into slavery.

 

Sounds like what Hispanics are doing, tbh

 

Actually it's most white illegals who sell people into slavery. The vastomajority of human trafficking is done by the Russian mob.

 

To be fair there was a percent of Indian cultures who was raiders first and foremost similar to the European Vikings without the ships.

For example the raiding was so bad at one point that there was starvation in sections of Mexico due to the peasants not being willing to work their fields under the constant threat of Comanche raiders killing them.

 

Well, you jump from parable to parable without paying any attention to the point of someone's post! So, maybe in your mind they are making your case, but to others, not so much---just saying---
So,let me be clear, before you jump to another long parable---
There are plenty of honest journalists out there in all media-despite what donnie & you claim!
So,if Maxine Water's was the subject of this thread then you would see plenty of reaction-but this thread isn't about Maxine Water's is it?
But,as long as you brought it up---on the campaign trail trump said "go ahead & beat the hell out of him,I'll even pay for his attorney fee's",Did he catch as you say "all kinds of hell from his supporters" Nah,on the contrary----Now,you can deny that until the pigs come home, but you know damn well it's true!
And you lecturing me on being reasonable & respectful, have you looked in the mirror lately, or if I could give you a hint, go back & read your own posts---just saying----
None of your long winded parables will change my mind or opinion of trump----He has about as much business being POTUS as he does being a husband--None---

 

If you look at my original response, one of the things I noted was that all journalists are part of the problem. There will always be those trying to do what's right on either side- but when enough of them give up their integrity, it taints the profession. That true about car salesmen, lawyers, you name it. We need a lot of those who aren't being ethical to change- and of course, we need the ethical ones to get applauded for their integrity.

Your Trump comment about "beat the hell out of them" is apparently drawn from one of these biased news stories. Yes, Trump did say that, but if you look at the whole event Trump did not endorse attack- he endorsed defense. He had been told some in the audience were there to disrupt and perhaps throw tomatoes; Trump told the audience that if you see someone starting to throw tomatoes- beat the hell out of them. Of course, the lib media simply ignored the part about the threatening nature and implied it was towards people who didn't agree.
NOT true. There is no question that people in the press who implied that knew the full story, but they choose to forget the parts that didn't fit in to the plan of attacking the President. They do things like that with amazing frequency- and that is turning actual news into fake news; omitting part of the story to imply something not in fact accurate.

You are free to hate Trump, for sure. If you don't develop the ability to see the whole story, that will be a lot easier.

 

Should Maxine Waters stop her incitement immediately or not? I said integrity check for a reason.

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-incitement-violence/
Ok,here's a link with the actual video of the particular speech I was referring to---Now,listen to the whole thing,( because there are several video's) --where does he say anything about throwing "tomatoes" as you say in the particular speech I was referring to --?
What, you don't think there's fact check out there?

 

Did you not read my post?

 

Seems you ha

Perhaps you are relying on a fact-checker that is managed by biased liberals.

Here's the report from Politifacts "truth-o-meter", with the actual quote:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...s-rep-maxine-waters-and-president-donald-tru/

What Trump said

In June 2017, Sanders said that the president never promoted or encouraged violence. We rated that statement False. We tracked down several examples of Trump’s comments invoking violence during the 2016 campaign.


The clearest example was at a campaign event in February 2016 when Trump told a crowd in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, "So I got a little notice. We have wonderful security guys. It said, ‘Mr. Trump, there may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience.’ So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Just knock the hell .... I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise."

Now you notice they mention that this is "invoking violence". Unlike the left's preference that abusive conduct should be tolerated by others when they do it (and of course result in crucifixion if it happens to them) It's clear that this is a response to the potential of violence from people there to disrupt the event. And don't forget- the number of times Trump has been attacked and insulted would probably be 5,000 times greater than any response he's made that actually called people out.

Now you can choose to be someone who can't stand to see the nation stable if it means accepting Trump leadership in any way, or giving him an ounce of credit for anything. It's a personal thing; they really can't make much of a case against performance- just they don't like his personality. What a horrible thing to have to endure!
There are plenty out there willing to put their hatred above the nations best interests. Right now, the liberals are setting precedents which will severely damage our society for many years to come- such as people who don't like you stalking and screaming at you at home or in public, because of any pretense they want to use. Government by outrage, screaming, demanding, and to hell with the law if you don't agree with it. What a vision for the future!

 

yes...its vague. You say one thing then imply another. If you just clarify your stance of waters that would be great. Is there a reason why you wouldnt want to do that?

 

I noticed something interesting about right wingers if a fact checker finds what they don’t like it becomes a liberal biased source. Doesn’t commonsense tell you that if it wasn’t accurate it wouldn’t be in business

 

That's a nice, but outdated idea. The propaganda wars of today are taking every possible form- at every possible level, and that is really sad. When you can read two news reports on exactly the same incident and get totally opposite slants out of the stories, it's no wonder people are divided. Unfortunately- it takes people willing to buy those slants in the first place for them to stay around. It's a problem that starts with the way people are letting themselves be told what to think.

I've yet to see a leftwinger who didn't deny everything positive about Trump. It's like they fear that if they agreed to one thing that wasn't heinous, their whole illusion would explode.

There's an awful lot of people who would love to see some old-fashioned honest reporting. Good luck finding it.

 

Nope,incorrect---the only difference in the reporting is on trump's twitter feed--
Good reporting is right in front of your face, problem is, you are to stubborn to see it!
Oh, I've got no illusions--trump deserves to be right next to Manifort--shackled & behind bars!

 

Right. All left-wing comments are above question, all right-wing comments are immediately invalid. That's the way to be fair and righteous.
Good thinking there, Bluebill.

 

Didn't say that, quit putting words in my mouth!
And it is Blue"bird" not Blue"gill"---

 

Just telling you what you said actually indicated you appear to think.

The double standards and hypocrisy in today's society serve no good purpose for either side. You can chose to continue that- or not.

 

trump has all the racist and bigots crawling out of the woodwork to ape his deplorable demagoguery.

 

You cannot abridge the right of free speech. It was made free speech because you have the right to say what you want. End of story. UNLESS you believe it is a privilege and not a right?

 

There is nothing sacred about illegal aliens. However, legal naturalized citizens are welcome. But illegal aliens are nothing but burglars, and our military should be put on the borders with orders to "shoot to kill":

 

When some moron liberal gets in front of a camera and screeches about wanting open borders, I won’t permit him to be used as a way to paint all liberals.

I also won’t allow this woman to be used to paint all conservatives. She’s clearly completely nuts. If all conservatives were like her there would be a literal race war raging in this country right now. With corpses and everything.

 

I hope you're not too serious about this.

There is really only one basic issue here: should a country -- the US in this case -- have the right to control its borders? If we agree on that, then we can argue about how many, and whom, to let cross those borders. What fuels this debate on one side is the idea that illegal immigration is out of control, and that a section of American society wants it that way -- wants Open Borders without having to get Congress to vote for Open Borders.