Trump tax cuts 6 months later:it is exactly what critics predicted- Only the rich benefit.

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  1. webrockk

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    I'll manage. I've managed this long. thanks again, though.


    (the sanctimony. oh my goodness, the sanctimony)
     
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    What 5 dollars.
     
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    Haha buddy, republicans passed a tax bill that gave corporations hundreds of billions of dollars. Those companies then gave you chumps one time thousand dollar bonuses and maybe a few of you got raises and then the remaining 99.99999999999% of that free windfall went directly into the coffers of the ultra rich.

    And you are all ecstatic. You definitely need to be saved from yourselves.
     
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    Sorry. We're doing just fine without any Democrat "help". :roflol: No thanks!
     
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    So you really have no answer.
     
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    So... all of those jobs that have been created, you know, with nearly historic low unemployment rates... where do you think the money came from to facilitate that in the private sector?
     
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    Im taking a new class............Its called the art of lying, from the GOP!.....Deal with it....You got owned, by Russia............That must suck?
     
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    When Trump's agenda doubles the debt, like Obama did, then you can compare the two. I am still of the belief that the economic growth resulting from these cuts will wash the tax refund amount.

    Any additional fruit from my labor that I get to keep, rather than being confiscated by the government, is a benefit.

    At what cost? Nothing to me.

    Your strawman about elderly and disabled is laughable. What percentage of our population is dependent on social safety nets? Don't for a minute believe that is all elderly and disabled.

    Why? What have you done to EARN fruits of my labor?[/quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    So, what you are saying is that you didn't really pay much tax to begin with.
     
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    Uh... where to start.

    This graph shows after tax income. The lower incomes don't pay an income tax to begin with, and this was afterall a tax cut.

    SO basically, you want the lowest tax payers to get more tax cuts, otherwise its unfair? WTH?
     
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    How could somebody's line of thinking be SO backward.

    Allowing somebody to keep MORE of the money that they earned is not a distribution of wealthy, unless of course you are of the opinion that people that didn't earn it are somehow entitled to it.
     
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    Somebody can't do math.
     
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    When you only paid 25 to start with, thats a pretty good deal.
     
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    Your benefit is a very small percentage of what those at the top got. VERY small. And the long term affects of this cut haven't even started.

    If you put a frog in Boiling water he will jump out. But if you put him in pan of lukewarm water, and slowly turn the temperature up, he will sit in it until he dies.
     
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    In what world did you believe that corporations have to evenly distribute overhead costs when savings are found? Are you also of the belief that when a company exceeds anticipated profits, that is somehow due to labor in equal proportions?
     
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    Actually, percentage wise, its better.
     
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    If you did not benefit from Trump's tax cuts, it's because you did not pay federal income tax to begin with.
    Why are you unhappy with the fact Trump increased the number of low-income people who pay no federal income tax?
     
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    no way more and I'm middle to upper middle class. There's a take home pay calculator, I'll see if I can find it, it shows 2017 and 2018 take home pay.
     
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    As usual that guy only thinks corporations are billion dollar businesses. The vast majority are small mom and pop trying to make a decent living, the American dream.
     
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    If as a taxpayer I am going to approve a massive tax cut for corporations I expect there to be some meaningful tangible profit to the country. There was none here. In what world do you find it acceptable that the people sworn to serve this country blatantly screwed it and you by offering a free no strings attached love note with billions of dollars stuffed inside to corporations many of whom don’t even hire American workers?
     
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    It’s ok we will just take care of ourselves and in doing so drag you fools along on our coattails as it has always been. You can thank/pretend it was your idea all along later.
     
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    Nope. You're making that ledge jump without us. Geronimooooooooooooooooo!
     
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    The left has never taken care of anyone outside its self-serving desire to gain and retain as much political power as possible.
     
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    Yeah, cause the deficits and debt mean nothing. The right somehow forgot that lesson taught to them by Bush. Trickle down does not work, never has, never will. It always has great short term returns, but the longterm returns are disastrous. But hey by the time those returns hit, the left will be in power and the right will blame them, just like they did when Obama paid off Bushs credit card.

    But you should also look at the other side of that coin. The Republicans purposely gave the individual tax break, and very purposefully limited it to 10 years, while making the corporate rate cuts permanent. They did that to get buy in from their base, "we gave individuals a break", while making the corporate rate permanent with no real repercussion from their base because...."Individual tax break!!!!"

    Like I said, in 10 years when the breaks expire, they will blame the left for the deficits, and the debt !!!!!

    I don't know if the dems were "played" as much as they were probably just as complicit in the ruse
     
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    No, repeal of the individual rates was to meet the byrd rule, but ONLY because the corporate rate was cut so much. They could have lessened the corporate rate cut by 4% points and then made the individual rates permanent, but they decided that the corporate rate was more important. ;)
     
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