Trump attacks Obama in tweetstorm hours before Putin meeting

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  1. mdrobster

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    the doj did that, not trump, trump calls the fbi and doj biased, yet accepts a kgb at his word. that may not be treason, but it as far away from patriotic as one can get.
     
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    Trump had to let his cult followers know what narrative to push, he must have been anticipating completely blowing the summit, which he did. All right on cue.
     
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    No it's not.

    Stop making crap up.
     
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    Check and mate

    This is the narrative Hannity and Fox news is pushing it doesn't really mean anything, they know they are wrong and hypocrites. Doesn't matter.
     
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    Donald Trump: "Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!"

    Trump is claiming our relationship with Russia is worse than during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
     
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    You say Trump does not have a mandate yet you people believed the treasonous Obama had a mandate to destroy the US. There was an election. You lost. Next time run a better candidate.
     
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    “The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn’t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election?” --- Donald Trump

    So what is Trump going to do other than playing the blame game?? Obama was a lame duck. The idiots Republicans won't even let him recommend a SC justice. What a bunch of hypocrites.
     
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  8. MolonLabe2009

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    The DNC never turned their server over to the FBI for forensic examination.

    Do you know why?

    Because they don't want the FBI to see ALL the crime and corruption on that server.

    So, how can any determination of who hacked the DNC server if the FBI hasn't done a forensic examination of the server????
     
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    "The role of the Intelligence Community is to provide the best information and fact-based assessments possible for the president and policymakers," said Coats, who took over as U.S. director of national intelligence in March 2017. "We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security."

    When’s coats being fired for lying about Trumps BFF Vlad?
     
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    Definition of Assessment : "the evaluation or estimation of the nature, quality, or ability of someone or something."

    No concrete facts. Just estimations. Basically nothing but speculations.

    Get back to me when they have hard physical evidence.
     
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    The Command-n-Chief doesn't need congresses approval on national security.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Why’s trumps DNI publicly “speculating” if he has no proof?
    When’s he getting fired?
     
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    I hope he gets fired soon.
     
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    I'm not sure why you feel the need to repeat what I've said when you've quoted me already.
    Trump doesn't give Mueller orders and those are mueller's indictments. That's sort of the point of the special counsel....

    1) its outright not treason. 2) you're not real clear on what diplomacy is or how it works, huh? You don't level accusations of a causus belli at an internationally televised summit if you don't have the smoking gun. Mueller won't show anyone his cards, so its hard for anyone to have the smoking gun, much less the president who is by design cut out of the loop on special counsel ****.
     
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    Well Congress and the US Intelligence services disagrees with Trump and yourself!!!!!
     
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    Neither congress or the US Intel has disclosed proof that the Russians hacked the DNC server.
     
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    Congress has charged 1) impeached Trump for Treason in the House and 2) the Senate convicted him of same? Cite?
    Jesus Christ, you really want President Pence picking the next 2-3 SCOTUS justices?

    US Intelligence services = attack dogs. Attack dogs are allowed to bark and appear menacing.
    The President of the United States = head of state. When they make an accusation of causus belli they'd better be right or otherwise prepared to start the killing, because war is what generally follows an accusation of causus belli.
    You want a war with a nuclear power? AND you want Pence in charge of it? :gallery: < What do these images look like to you?

    You're seeing the difference I'm sure.
     
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    I expect Trump to defend this nation, period!!!!!!
     
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    You keep telling yourself that and Obama was born in Kenya.
     
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    What Russian melding? I thought Putin promised Trump that the Russians didn't do anything?
     
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    Some interesting results here: SO you're saying Congress hasn't convicted Trump of Treason or even started impeachment? So you said something you then knew to be false? O my.

    What defends the nation more: A) Picking a fight with a nuclear power that still has more nukes than anyone but us, and still has us targeted all over for a full spread, over something no evidence has been provided over and which in fact mueller refuses to cough up (see refusing to go to trial on the russian indictments)? or B) not picking said fight because Nuclear War is not something to do over less than an imminent existential threat which this does not constitute?
    A or B?
     
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    Ah, the Russians picked the fight.
     
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    No dude, they did the same thing we have done numerous times. The same thing everyone does. It would be one thing if they'd actually changed totals or something.

    Do you know how many wars we'd have been through, just in Obama's terms, if we got in a war every time someone got caught trying intel work?

    China. Russia. China again. Russia again. Israel when we openly meddled in their election. Etc. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/18/vladimir-putins-rage-triggered-by-president-obamas/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/...-management-hackers-got-data-of-millions.html

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-...-cyber-attack-side-deal-nuclear-negotiations/

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html
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    The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

    That number doesn't include military coups and regime change efforts following the election of candidates the U.S. didn't like, notably those in Iran, Guatemala and Chile."

    ^ that list only goes up to W and stops. Both W and O (or rather the intel agencies under their direction) interfered on numerous levels with other nations and got caught out at it.

    Making some giant deal out of it, when you don't even have the smoking gun (but even if you did) is the best way to start a war.
    I don't know about you, but I prefer my bones covered in flesh and not radioactive.
     
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    Dude, trying to subvert our democratic process isn't intel work.
     
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    I mean its what we do literally all the time and have since the 40's on record. See the links in my previous post.

    Like I said: It would be different if they'd changed actual totals, that would arguably be an imminent existential threat depending on the penetration. They did not.

    Riddle me this: Why are we not at war with china after their cyber warfare attacks on campaigns during the 08 election?
     
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