Donald Trump has been far tougher on Russia than obama, who is the real traitor

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    Trump: Congress is encroaching on the executive branch ... - Vox


    On Wednesday, Congress forced President Donald Trump to sign a Russia sanctions bill into law.Because the bill passed Congress with a veto-proof majority, the president had two choices: sign it or veto it and then watch Congress immediately overrule him.


    https://www.vox.com/2017/8/3/16086950/donald-trump-russia-sanctions-congress-constitution
     
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    Trump administration hits 24 Russians with sanctions
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/06/trump-russia...
    The US treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, accused Russia of ‘attempting to subvert western democracies, and malicious cyber activities’. Photograph: Frederic J/AFP/Getty Images The Trump administration announced new sanctions on seven Russian oligarchs and 17 top government officials on Friday ...
     
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    Town Hall is a poor source for the truth
     
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    Senator John McCain, a Republican of Arizona who has been critical of Trump’s posture on Russia, applauded the new wave of economic sanctions.

    “Today’s sanctions send a clear message to Putin and his cronies that there will be a high price to pay for Russia’s aggression in Ukraine and Syria, and its attempts to undermine Western democracies, including our own,” McCain said in a statement.

    The sanctions freeze any assets that those targeted have in US jurisdictions and bars Americans from doing business with them. But the administration said it would give guidance to Americans who may currently have business with them about how to wind down that business and avoid running afoul of the sanctions.

    The Trump administration used a variety of legal mechanisms to implement the sanctions, including the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. Known as CAATSA, the law was overwhelmingly passed by Congress in 2017 and signed by Trump despite some objections.

    The law aims to punish Russia for interfering in the US election as well as actions intended to subvert democracy in Europe. The law also authorizes the president to impose sanctions on Iran for destabilizing activity in the Middle East and North Korea for its nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

    Last month, the US targeted 19 Russians and five other entities with sanctions in the first use of the law. The administration has also expelled dozens of Russian diplomats and shut down two Russian consulates in response to Russian behavior, including the poisoning of an ex-spy in Britain that has been blamed on Moscow......snip~
     
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    And I don't find the NY Times believable either. After their cute little Trump and Putin love cartoon (among SO much other biased reporting) I don't see how anyone could be expected to believe that the Times would report news concerning Trump in a fair even handed manner.
    It's just incredible.

    Don't let the thread hit you in the butt on the way out.
     
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    Trump had to be dragged screaming before he would sign and he was constantly whining on getting the sanctions reduced and sucking up to putin.

    But somehow that is "being tough on russia" to the sheep that support him .
     
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    That didn't stop Paul from using Twitter.

    Rand Paul: John Brennan 'bigoted,' 'sort of unhinged ...
    m.washingtontimes.com
    6 hours ago · Sen. Rand Paul on Wednesday continued to defend President Trump from one of his top critics, blasting former CIA Director John Brennan as "the most biased, bigoted, over the top, hyperbolic, sort of unhinged."


    You must have forgot Rand Paul filibustering Brennan.

    Rand Paul launches talking filibuster against John Brennan ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/03/06/...
    Sen. Rand Paul's (R-Ky.) talking filibuster against John Brennan's nomination as CIA director ended after nearly early 13 hours. “I would go for another 12 hours to try to break Strom Thurmond’s record, but I’ve discovered that there are some limits to filibustering and I’m going to have to …


    Actually using the Lame excuse about sources is a really poor tactic. But then I guess when that's all a leftist has....then its back to namecalling, bringing the diss, and playing doubting Thomas.
     
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    Where’s the proof they poisoned that spy?
     
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    Why’s he mistreating our Russian allies? The bad relationship is our fault. Russia didntdonuthin!
     
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    LOL....yeah the leftness did try and troll with their play. They didn't do so well. As usual.


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    Are you saying the NYT invented the fact that Congress passed the sanctions and put Trump in a squeeze play? Were all the other news outlets also lying about it?

    You shouldn't have to lie or compromise your principles to defend Trump.
     
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    So the bar for Trumpster fires is set at Obama for whom they rank as the worst president in history? Makes sense. :roll:
     
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    Ask the Brits.....the US didn't investigate.
     
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    So trump just believes what the Brits tell him? He’s going to start ww3 over unverified claims?
     
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    It makes no sense unless Putin has some kind of powerful hold on Trump... and if he does, why the hell would Trump run for office?
     
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    Note the bolded and ask yourself why the NY times couldn't tell the whole truth. Like the Guardian did.


    Senator John McCain, a Republican of Arizona who has been critical of Trump’s posture on Russia, applauded the new wave of economic sanctions.

    “Today’s sanctions send a clear message to Putin and his cronies that there will be a high price to pay for Russia’s aggression in Ukraine and Syria, and its attempts to undermine Western democracies, including our own,” McCain said in a statement.

    The sanctions freeze any assets that those targeted have in US jurisdictions and bars Americans from doing business with them. But the administration said it would give guidance to Americans who may currently have business with them about how to wind down that business and avoid running afoul of the sanctions.

    The Trump administration used a variety of legal mechanisms to implement the sanctions, including the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. Known as CAATSA, the law was overwhelmingly passed by Congress in 2017 and signed by Trump despite some objections.....snip~

    Note that part about New sanctions. Meaning after the old sanctions passed in January.

    Then note that part about Trump using a variety of legal mechanisms Including the Sanctions act by Congress in 2017.

    Do you ever tell the truth?
     
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    So he’s trying to make our relationship with Russia worse by imposing needless sanctions!
     
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    Were the Brits and the US the only ones that put sanctions on the Russians? Are you sure you can't blame some others for doing the same to try and Dump on Trump.
     
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    Moonglow already explained that out for you in post 37.

    Just so you can at least get it Right, for once despite a few pages flipping over and you thinking all forgot.. :laughing:
     
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    Who cares what the globalist cucks do? America first!
    Why are you demonizing Russia? The bad relations are OUR fault.
     
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    Study up on the Carrot and Stick approach, so you don't keep repeating yourself and sounding like a broken record caught on the skip.
     
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    CNN is fake news. Trump says so daily. This is his own words:
    Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!

    Why’s he making it worse and being so unfair to them?
     
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    Why would we need a stick?

    Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!
     

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