Accused Russian Spy Butina Met w/Obama Treasury Dept. Officials.

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  1. Gatewood

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    B-B-But -- as any GOOD leftist worth his, her. or it's Party Card would say -- that's . . . different.
     
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    the birther base is but obvious........
     
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    Did it bother you that Trump personally intervened to protect a Chinese company that stole our technology?

    are you even aware that happened? ZTE? ring a bell?
     
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    Sorry, but it an exercise in screwed up logic for you to think that Clinton’s or Obama’s involvement in any way forgives Trump’s or the NRA involvement with this spy.

    One thing does not negate the other.
     
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  5. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Total NONSENSE. It has NEVER BEEN "DEBUNKED", because it is the TRUTH, which cannot be "debunked", only DENIED or LIED about, as you are trying.

    Here... let's see the "DEBUNKING" :


    Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


    At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



    Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show
    After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    “No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

    The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.




    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    Bullcrap.



    Here... let's see the "DEBUNKING" :


    Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


    At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



    Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show


    After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    “No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

    The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.



    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    Here ya …"destroy" the Uranium One story...der.


    Here... let's see the "DEBUNKING" :


    Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal


    At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



    Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show
    After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    “No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

    The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.



    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    And then there's WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED:


    Obama abandons missile defence shield in Europe
    US president shelves scheme in Poland and Czech Republic, citing new intelligence on threat from Iran



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/17/missile-defence-shield-barack-obama
     
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    Yaawwnnnn...
    How many time do I have to post the SAME FACTS, before the PF left stops its SILLIASS, PHONY DENIALS?

    Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...e-he-led-disarming-ukraine-andrew-c-mccarthy/





    Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html


    Now that the ASININE DEFELCTION ATTEMPTS have been sent down in flames:

    Explain why the Obama senior Treasury officials were MEETING WITH THE BIG RUSSIAN SPY?
     
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    This is yet another reason why I hate Obama lovers.

    They believe their OWN DELUSIONS over their OWN EYES AND EARS:




    Oh, by all means, " dignify" it.

    DENIAL doesn't make the facts go away, contrary to what you OBVIOUSLY BELIEVE:
     
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    "Butina traveled to the United States in April 2015 with Alexander Torshin, then the Russian Central Bank deputy governor, and they took part in separate meetings with Fischer and Sheets to discuss U.S.-Russian economic relations during Democratic former President Barack Obama's administration.

    The two meetings, which have not been previously reported, reveal a wider circle of high-powered connections that Butina sought to cultivate with American political leaders and special interest groups.

    The meetings with Fischer and Sheets were arranged by the Center for the National Interest, a Washington foreign policy think tank that often advocates pro-Russia views."



    TREASON!!! Right, leftists, are was ALL OF THIS, VERIFIED, AGAIN, the TREASON we should be concerned with?

    Allowing Putin to take control of 20% of our uranium reserves;

    Allowing the ILLEGAL EXPORT of yellow cake uranium;

    Reneging on the European Miissile Defense Shield because that's what Putin wanted;

    Secretly promising EVEN MORE "FLEXIBILITY" AFTER THAT BETRAYAL;

    Refusing the arm the Ukraine to fight back against Putin;

    Ordering our intel services to STAND DOWN, and NOT INTERFERE WITH RUSSIAN MEDDLING in the 2016 election?
     
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    Iranians are considered Caucasian......but then they do have that bad history of taking over our Embassy and holding our people hostage, etc.
     
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    Medvedev lost power.
     
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    First, that is Medvedenko -- second, the reason Putin allowed him to be the president is because Medvedenko was considered to be moderate and Putin felt he would be the more favorable face when dealing with Obama.

    Second -- what he was referring to was the European Missile Shield, Putin wanted Obama to not go thru with it, he felt Medvedenko would be a more moderate broker in getting Obama to agree..also, when that statement was made -- republicans called the statement alarming and troubling, bordering on treason. -- ultimately, the European Missile Defense shield was built --- one of the many reasons Putin hates Obama...another reason he hates Obama is the Magniksy Act.

    Third --- Obama never publicly gave fellatio to Putin on national TV by throwing his own intelligence agencies under the bus to please Putin -- Obama never entertained turning over any US ambassadors and staffers over to Russia to please Putin -- Trump has.....Also, russia wants to question the ambassador and staffers because of the Magnisky Act -- and that is an act that Trump considered getting rid of...

    This is why I didn't feel like I needed to dignify your comment -- but since you insisted, consider another one of your points destroyed...
     
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    Oh...here is another little nugget that Trump lovers can't explain...

    Putin never went on record multiple times saying he wanted Trump to win before, during and after the election...

    If Putin ever said that about OBAMA --- republicans would swear that proved treason...
     
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    Persians are considered Caucasian but i guarantee you that the average Trump supporter doesn't know that no matter what you tell them.
     
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    You can bank that guarantee......;).
     
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    No he did not. He was Putin's CHOSEN SUCCESSOR, until Putin came back.
     
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    The uranium one conspiracy has been thoroughly debunked over and over, no amount of caps or bold text is going to change facts.

    You want some real facts?

    * Multiple guilty pleas
    * Denial of Russian interference
    * Trumps belief of Putin's word over the US intelligence community
    * Micahel Cohen saying he has tapes of many conversations with Trump
    * Anthony Kennedy's son worked on many loans from Russia to Trump for real estate investments
    * Russian agent confirmed trying to infiltrate the NRA and Republican party.
     
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    And Putin went on record in Helsinki saying next to his property that he wanted Trump to win.........he could not help himself ;).
     
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    And you think that the average Dem base voters.......room temperature ghetto blacks and Hispanic gang bangers.....would know that.......LMAO
     
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    Wow....your amazing total disregard for the facts is astounding.

    It was message for PUTIN , who was the REAL LEADER OF RUSSIA, who installed Medvedev until he (Putin) could legally RUN AGAIN...


    The Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy is the joint leadership of Russia between 2008 and 2012 when Vladimir Putin, who was constitutionally barred from serving a third consecutive term as President of Russia, assumed the role of Prime Minister under President Dmitry Medvedev. While the office of Prime Minister is nominally the subservient position, opinion differs as to what extent Putin was the de facto leader during this period, with most opinion being either that Putin remained paramount or that he and Medvedev had similar levels of power. Putin was re-elected President in the 2012 election and Medvedev became his Prime Minister.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandemocracy


    Another SILLIASS ATTEMPTED DENIAL OF THE FACTS, down in flames...
     
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    He is entitled to cheer for who he wants...and?


    TRUMP DID NOT DO ANY OF THIS:


    Allowing Putin to take control of 20% of our uranium reserves;

    Allowing the ILLEGAL EXPORT of yellow cake uranium;


    Reneging on the European Miissile Defense Shield because that's what Putin wanted;

    Secretly promising EVEN MORE "FLEXIBILITY" AFTER THAT BETRAYAL;

    Refusing the arm the Ukraine to fight back against Putin;

    Ordering our intel services to STAND DOWN, and NOT INTERFERE WITH RUSSIAN MEDDLING in the 2016 election?


    Now hurry and PRETEND none of it happened, despite ALL OF IT BEING VERFIED THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD.

    Silliass DENIAL of the FACTS, is all the left has left, apparently.


    WHAT WERE OBAMA's SENIOR TREASURY OFFICIALS DOING,MEETING WITH THE BIG RUSSIAN SPY??


    Working out PAYMENTS for the STAND DOWN ORDER in 2016???
     
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    That's a rebuttal to what I posted or just more FOX/RT propaganda spam?

    Here, try again:

    @ThorInc said:
    "And Putin went on record in Helsinki saying next to his property that he wanted Trump to win.........he could not help himself ;)."
     
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    Desperate dodge duly noted.

    ThorInc said:
    And Putin went on record in Helsinki saying next to his property that he wanted Trump to win.........he could not help himself ;)


    MEANINGLESS, compared to THIS:


    TRUMP DID NOT DO ANY OF THIS:


    Allowing Putin to take control of 20% of our uranium reserves;

    Allowing the ILLEGAL EXPORT of yellow cake uranium;


    Reneging on the European Miissile Defense Shield because that's what Putin wanted;

    Secretly promising EVEN MORE "FLEXIBILITY" AFTER THAT BETRAYAL;

    Refusing the arm the Ukraine to fight back against Putin;

    Ordering our intel services to STAND DOWN, and NOT INTERFERE WITH RUSSIAN MEDDLING in the 2016 election?


    Now hurry and PRETEND none of it happened, despite ALL OF IT BEING VERFIED THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD.

    Silliass DENIAL of the FACTS, is all the left has left, apparently.


    WHAT WERE OBAMA's SENIOR TREASURY OFFICIALS DOING,MEETING WITH THE BIG RUSSIAN SPY??


    Working out PAYMENTS for the STAND DOWN ORDER in 2016???
     
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