Wonder what the socialist democrats are really up to? Hang on... it's scary.

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just out is a story on democratic senator and potential presidential candidate, Elizabeth Warren.
    If you have asked the logical question of how the socialistic politicians would pay for the "free everything" that is their core concept, we now know.

    Seems she is backing a bill to nationalize US Industries, which would be the largest seizure of private property in US history. Legalized theft. For our own good, of course.

    Consider if somehow this were to actually come to pass, just how incredibly inefficient all those industries would become- in short order, America's economy would be in the same shape as Russia's when it collapsed.The golden goose would be dead, and there would be no one left to tax for the huge costs of recovery.

    While this sounds like something you would expect in a three stooges comedy, it's for real- it's what they think; and it demonstrates how little they really know about economics.... not to mention the fundamental concept of freedom that has made America the exceptional place that people from all over the world want to come to.

    This concept, and these people, present an unprecedented danger to the nation- and such proposals should be seen as criminal, a kind of treason committed against the public at large.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/elizabeth-warren-plan-nationalize-everything-woos-hard-left/

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/eco...able-capitalism-act-seriously-misguided-.html

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5823323119001/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips
     
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    BREAKING!!! Democrats want to fundamentally transform America into something completely different that resembles countries they admire.
     
  3. Quantum Nerd

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    Oh boy, they must be really scared of Warren. The communists are coming for you.....

    In reality, she is proposing to make stock buybacks illegal, as they were made legal under Reagan in 1982.

    Second, she wants to put workers on corp's board. Companies in Europe have done such things for a long time and have been successful.

    This is just fear-mongering to destroy a potential candidate they hate.
     
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    BTW: It is amazing that the ones voting for free money for themselves through unpaid-for tax cuts complain about others wanting free money.
     
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    Now you know why they so desperately want we inconsequential commoners disarmed.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems your version of the story is hard to read for the extreme whitewashing it's under.

    Read the stories, don't make up your own versions.
     
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    Democrats wanting to Nationalize all businesses is not new...

     
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    No doubt, they are probably planning something, as soon as No.2 gets that phone call.
     
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    This is sure to help them out in the coming elections *snicker*
     
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    How do tax cuts equal free money?
     
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    If she knew anything (which she doesn't) she would know that Harry Truman tried to nationalize the steel industry and the Supreme Court ruled that a president does not have that authority.

    I really thought Indians were smarter than this
     
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    we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.
     
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    Unpaid for tax cuts? This is just laughable ignorance to the Nth degree! Gawd help his soul!
     
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    Oh yes, the guy on the receiving end of the tax code calling tax rate reductions free money.
    Too funny
     
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    What amazes me about this is that CNBC actually published something that was against leftist ideas. Maybe the problem is that Warren isn't far enough to the left to please the current democrat ranks?
     
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    I still can't get over "unpaid for tax cuts" my gawd! Our education system has failed us!
     
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    it comes up so often it's pretty clear that leftists think government owns all the money... tax cuts therefore 'cost' government (and by extension, them) money.
     
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    This has nothing to do with nationalization.
     
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    What doesn't?
     
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    And there I was thinking the money I earned was mine....silly me.....
     
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    ****ing little free shitters.
    The want all the amenities government can offer, and they want someone else to pay for it.
     
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    Ask that question to your conservative friends, they are the ones claiming that the tax cuts will pay for themselves. If something pays for itself it is, by definition, free, because I don't have to pay for it.
     
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    I knew it wouldn't take long to be accused of being on government assistance. If it makes you sleep better....
     
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    Oh wise one, please tell me who is going to pay for the $1.5 trillion additional deficit projected from the tax cuts over 10 years? Because right now, no spending cuts have been implemented. Thus, nobody is currently paying for the tax cuts.
     
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    The ultimate just system is simple- Support yourself. The number of people in the country and the number of people who need to be fed, clothed, etc- is exactly the same.
    There is no magic "other person" from whom we can get free money- every dime we spend comes out of our own pockets. All each person has to do is care for one person, and they can do that at whatever level whatever standard of living they are willing to tolerate. Not being motivated to produce does not entitle anyone to take from those who are.

    So... If one person works hard, plants and cares for his financial garden and does well, why should he feed the guy who chilled out and watched?

    Almost all the problems of a persons life are directly related to their own decisions. Those in true need we have always been charitable to. Nobody else is entitled to your money or mine- and taking it for the purpose of "social justice" is theft.... just as failing to do your share so that others have to carry you is a form of theft.

    Your value is what you make it. A minimum wage only raises all wages, AND all product costs equally- producing the illusion of making more money, but cancelling itself out.
    Be worth more, and you can make more, can live better, retire better.
     

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