Protesters topple Silent Sam Confederate statue at UNC

And did they take the necessary steps like other states to have it peacefully removed? Or did they just whine and bitch like little kids?

 

And urinating on a bible is?

Come on, this is so political it is ridiculous and you know it.

Wait, you really believe this?

Man, the word "fact" really doesn't mean much anymore, this is truly embarassing

 

An insult to our soldiers? So the person (was it Trucker?) who said someone would consider the Iwo Jima statue racist was correct?

You think it is an "insult" because it is racist? Or is it something else? This thread is seriously disturbing ...

 

Uh...I've never defended urinating on a Bible, though this statue was equivalent to urinating of all the graves of Union soldiers. And it sure is political, white supremacy eats **** and that's a political statement that can never be repeated enough

 

Don't be so ingenuous, my meaning is clear. Comparing that statue to Nazi monuments and acting as if Japanese propaganda was real is insulting as hell to US Soldiery who never did any of those things and you know it.

 

I am honestly confused at what you are trying to say which is why I asked the question.

"... acting as if Japanese propaganda was real is insulting..."

What Japanese propaganda are you talking about specifically? And US soldiers never did what? put the flag up?

 

As I just said, many people did take steps, but they were ignored and nothing was ever done

 

Before 1865 Americans held their loyalty to the sovereign state they lived in, not to the federal government.
So they weren't traitors. Even President Lincoln refused to refer to the South as traitors and only a small number in the North used the term traitors. President Lincoln called them "radical Republicans."

All one has to do is look at the "Order of Battle" of both of the Confederate armies and the Union armies.

All Confederate armies were state armies. (The Army of Northern Virginia)

The vast majority of the Union armies were made up of state militias and state volunteers.

 

Can you cite the actions taken? It takes a while for approval for something like this. You don't just get to grab 100 nutjobs and tear it down.

But it appears you do approve of the mob rule.

This is helpful to know for the future

 

But you were bragging about how content liberals are whereas it is well known that Conservatives are happier than liberals.

 

You are basically declaring you are the arbiter of what is and what is not art.

Why do we have things that are so purposefully insulting such as a bible being urinated on, yet a statue to remember the students of the school who fought and died is not?

Silent Sam Statue

"The statue was funded by the University Alumni and the United Daughters of the Confederacy. It was erected in 1913 as a memorial to the Confederate alumni who lost their lives in the American Civil War and all students who joined the Confederate States Army.[3]

More than one thousand members of the university fought in the American Civil War in either the Northern or Southern armies, comprising at least 40% of the student body.[4] The University remained open through the entire war. This was due to President Swain's policy of dependency on men unfit for combat.[3]

A bronze image on the front of the memorial depicts a young student dropping his books as he looks up to answer a call to duty. On the base of the statue, a woman representing the state of North Carolina is depicted calling students to fight for the Southern cause even if it means leaving their studies.[5] The statue was erected to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the beginning of the Civil War (1911)."

This is artwork to commemorate people of that area who died, yet of course, it is being taken to mean whatever you want it to and then history is vandalized.

This is political theatre meant to grab attention, nothin more. So sad that people want art to be vandalized to fit their agenda. Wonder if statues of Attila the Hun, or Julius Caesar are considered "evil"?

Heck, a brand new statue of Stalin was just put up in Moscow. Again, just so sad that people destroy art in order to fill their political agenda.

Very ISIS like

 

Liberals call this art.
Remember ???



A crucifix in urine.

 

Thanks, this is exactly what I was talking about in a post above.

Why are Leftists the arbiters of what is ok and what is not ok for art?

 

many of them were.

 

Are you trying to get me infracted for calling you the idiot you are acting like (without being one, of course) or what? I think that baiting is a board violation too.

The Japanese propagandists were quite well known for telling their people that the Americans would torture them, and even eat them alive. This is why so many of the civilians committed suicide. The Americans never did anything that the Japanese said they would and (and they did take prisoners, when any surrendered) and it is an egregious insult to compare them to either German or Japanese soldiers, both of whom committed many well-known atrocities as a matter of course if not outright policy.

One guy who had been in all the theatres summed up the way American soldiers acted in comparison to everyone else in WWII "If it was German, Japanese or Russian soldiers everybody stayed hidden, and hoped the Americans would be by soon, if they were coming. If it was Americans you couldn't keep the kids in, cause they all knew American soldiers gave them candy"

 

https://www.huckmag.com/art-and-cul...-pictures-londons-underground-graffiti-scene/

 

Ah right, asking a question to clarify your drooling childish blather is "baiting" got it.

But thank you for clearing it up, it shows you either didn't read the actual post you were responding to or your childish rants took precedence over an actual conversation.

The question was:

"Is this the next monument to be toppled because U.S. Marines did not take prisoners in the Pacific, were accused of eating babies for breakfast and being white racist?"

He is inferring that the statue is up not because of "racism" or whatever other nonsense you are trying to parrot off, it is respect for those that dies on the losing side. Nations all over the world have statues doing exactly this going back to before Christ was even born.

YOU are the one trying to compare them to Nazi's or whatever else, the poster you (incorrectly) answered did not state this, you did.

So, instead of trying to side step; is the push about "America being evil and needing change" going on from Leftists going to eventually turn into tearing down the statue of Iwo Jima?

Were they supporting a "white supremacist nation"?

 

I never thought Piss Christ was art, and have never said I did. What other people think is art is not really my concern. As a deflection this is truly beyond belief.

 

No, they were not, but you are.

 

North Carolina only seceded after Lincoln called for 75,000 troops to fight his self-proclaimed war. They, along with Virginia, Tennessee and Arkansas would not make war on their countrymen.

Four border States with slavery did not secede and fought with the Union. West Virginia was brought into the union as a slave state during the war.

This talk about slavery is a red herring brought about by people that don't know history. Lincoln himself, in his inaugural address, stated that he would only use force to collect "imports and duties".

The War Between the States was about money, plain and simple.

 

What if someone were to vandalize Piss Christ?

What would be your reaction?

 

Aaaaaaand I get called a racist ....

Shocker.

How you guys wonder why Trump became President is beyond me.

 

Shocker, another attack.

So Leftists are the arbiters of art?

Do you see Christians illegally destroying the art? Why is it ok for Leftists to do it? Why are you not upset about one but only the other?

 

We see leftists destroying statues, small businesses, firebombing cars, assaulting (and killing) police (BLM riots)

While the right wing just sits back and shakes their head in disgust.

 

Excellent point that most people these days don't realize. Even the union army was largely made up of state militias. You just can't call these southern Patriots traitors if you know the facts.