Nazi labor camp guard caught by ICE, deported to Germany, completing 'difficult task,' Grenell says

ICE nor Trump had anything to do with the identification of this guy as a NAZI guard. The DOJ infirmed this NAZI guard in 1993 that he was suspectec of being a NAZI guard.

See some of my posts on this.

 

Trump does not deserve any credit for indentifying this NAZI as a guard that was made known in 1993 or 25 years ago. ICE was not around in 1993.

 

I have posted many times that my parents were survivors of NAZI run Firced Labor. Camps. Those were not specifically death camps but prisoners did die from over work and escape attempts. Guys like this NNAZI guard would have shot the people who were my future parents if they were caught even attempting to escape.

'This POS deserves to pay for his crimes.

Let's give credit to where is belongs for the identification and deportation of this guy. It H's the OSI - Office of Special Investigations and the Department of Justice of which the OSI and it's successor department of the Department of Justice.

 

Did anyone call you a NAZI personnaly? I mean have you ever been personably called a NAZI. I have ! I have when I was a kid by other kids when I made the mistake of admitting to having been born in Germany.

I was asked by "adults" especially in the Air Force if "was Ya'll a NAZI?"

I got thrown out of a Catholic grammar school in sixth grade because I broke the nose of a bully who called me a NAZI since 4th grade. It was a great day he was right behind me in a stair case when pushed me and called me a NAZI last time. I hit him with a down swing and he bled like a pig. It was worth it.

I went through the citizen naturalization process and I know that I mentioned before that I was asked if I was a NAZI or if I was Hitler Youth.
I was not German and I was born after WWII to parents of labor camps survivors.

I am not defending anyone calling you a NAZI, no one who us not a NAZI should ever be treated like that.

I just wanted to tell you my story again because yes I know what it means to actually be called a NAZI.

 

Have you been personally called a NAZI. I have!

 

Calling this a silly story is stupid, wrong, and just criminal and the guy younrrsponded to should know better. What is silly as I have noted in other posts is that this started 25 years ago in 1993 long before Trump, or ICE. The department of Justice is the king of this deportation.

 

Imagine if this country put as much effort into eradicating the gang problem as they do in hunting down geriatric WWII camp guards.

 

True he is not an ethnic German. He was 20 years old in 1943 when he served as a guard in a NAZI camp. He was above the age of reason so he must have known that he was doing the wrong thing. He could have refused to be a NAZI guard. Of course that was a death sentence since he would have beeen thrown in with the Jewish peoplecand the others who they (Germans) were killing that day. So he made the decision to live and shoot any prisoners who tried to escape and or whatever the Garman bosses told him to do.

Did he do the wrong thing? Yes. How many of us no matter what we would say here today in the comfort of our homes and living in a free country would give up our lives by saying no I am not serving as a NAZI guard? How many of us would trade immediate death for a chance to live? No, I am not defending this Palij guy but really people are we all ad bravecas we think we are or claim we are?

 

To me, death is death. Be it execution by the Nazis, or being shot down by a soldier in a lawful encounter on the battlefield. The idea that we could subjectively choose what's a 'war crime' and what's not is hilarious. Especially when the would-be leaders of these countries(including ours) choose to avoid prosecution for their so-called crimes.

It was horrible that they died, it was horrible there was a war period. People shouldn't be singled-out and targeted for execution. But alas, it's war: Crap happens. I don't subscribe to one act of war being worse than the other. They're all equally cruel and evil.

 

Why is my comment silly? I noted the OSI - Office of Special Investigations a subdepartment of the Department of Justice that was folded into another department in Justice in 2010. It merged into the Domestic Security Section in the DOJ. ICE is part of Immigration and grew out of INS not The Department of Justice.

So why is comment silly since I know the facts and thatbjs whatvI presented.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off...gations_(United_States_Department_of_Justice)

 

What’s the point of dragging a 95 year old through this?
I can tell you what will actually happen - he will be sentenced to about 1 year in jail, but due to this guys advanced age he will be pretty much at a Nursing home with the door lock - he will be fed well and there will be nurses to give him shots and take care of him in case he has health issues. If he lives long enough to survive the sentence he will be placed into another nursing home and will be taken care of by German taxpayers.
After all is said and done - what’s the point? I have no doubt that he already had more than enough time to think about what he has done and with the way German justice system is, his “punishment” will never match his crimes. In fact, the punishment is going to be more like a vacation with free food and housing.

 

INS was part of the Department of Justice..........until the restructuring post 9/11.

 

So is not giving credit where its do for your politics.

 

I've seen death up close for a long time.

Death is not simply death.

In the darkest days of Iraq, Americans still had higher standards.

The iraqis couldn't understand it.

 

You are seeing things through a different lens.

The most decrepit nazi is still a nazi.

His value is today only in reminding us such evil exists.

 

So what if a living Nazi had gone to a Christian church, repented for his sins and tried to be reborn, would said Nazi be forgiven in the eyes of the clergy? Just giving a hypothetical example here to see how forgiving we as humans can be.

 

Yes, that is true but in that line ICE came out of INS. Still in 1993 the OSI ( not to be confused with the WWII OSI father of CIA) was under Justice and ICE did not exist.

 

What if a Catholic priest who buggered little boys repented and "found" Jesus as his savior instead of Mambla as his "god" should such a bacteria be allowed to be priest again instead of being a receptacle for Big Tyrone?

 

Yes it is silly to give Trump credit in this case since Trump had virtually nothing to do with the identification of and stripping of citizenship ( technically called denaturalization) from NAZI Guy. Or credit to ICE for find and uncovering this guy.

I understand the deal. There are the people whacky wing of the Democratic Party who are advocating doing away with ICE. Their stupidity and whackyness dies not make ICE heroes in this case.

Use truth and facts to defend ICE not the uncovering of a crime that was committed by a NAZI in 1958 or 1959. That was when Palij lied on his application for citizenship. Palij lied in the late 1940's when he was applying for immigration which was when Trump and Inwere in the process of being born.

 

Due to the fact of when and where and under the circumstances that Inwas born and what my parents endured I happen to know a hell of a lot about classes like this. I know that there were NAZIS and NAZI guards who stole the identities of people such as my parents who were in the NAZINforced labor camps and then got into this country. That was not the case here but I know that there were NAZIS and NAZI guards who got into this country and lived here and are dead by now.

You know what is ironic ., Werner Von Braun was a NAZI party member but because of what he knew he and his family were packed up a flown to the US. There were hundreds of NAZINscjentusts and engineers who came here via airplane while American soldiers who fought the NAZIS took the long boat trip.

Mr. Von Braun were you ever or are you now a NAZI Party member ?

Nein Nein nein I am scientist, make rockets go up.

Mr. Von Braun did you ever make NAZI rockets and buzz bombs that were fired on England and killed people?

Nein nein nein those were the liberals and democrat Germans who did that , I am rocket scientist .... I shoot for the moon..

So in the words of the great philosopher Rudolph Giuliani

- TRUTH IS NOT TRUTH!

 

Yeah but I'd have to pay taxes on that and it'd be a pay cut anyway.

But thanks.

 

Cool. I wouldn't want you to miss work responding.

 

It's OK I get to take a lunch.

 

That's nice.

I get paid for results and kind of work whenever I want, so don't worry your little head about it, it'll be just fine.