Nike unveils new ad featuring Colin Kaepernick

So lets give him a pass the first time he did it. Once it was obvious it was taken as a sign of disrespect, he continued even though there was never a shortage of media coverage for him to get his message out. I agree with his message, but the time he chose to deliver it is disrespectful.

Since the NFL chose to take ownership of his disrespect, many people no longer consume that product. I am one of those people.

 

Protests aren't about timing or what's convenient or easy for people.

 

No, they can't (and if they ever tried to, it would get thrown out in a heartbeat). The NFL CBA clearly states the grievance process for a collusion grievance is to go to the designated arbitrator. Believe me, if they could have gone to court (instead of arbitration) then they would have.

No but seriously... don't you ever get tired of showing people you don't know what you are talking about?

 

Of course there will be new customers. But businesses don't make money by alienating their current customer base with the mentality "oh new customers will eventually come along so we don't care about losing hundreds of millions of dollars right now."

Now, please keep in mind that I am just speaking hypothetically and teaching you and that other guy very basic business theory. You can thank me later for giving you some real world book learnin'.

 

I agree Kap falls in a different category, but disagree that it is patriotic. The Klan could "peacefully" burn a cross on their own property, and I would say that is virulently unpatriotic. So simply being peaceful is not enough for me.

 

Patriotism, in that regard, depends on the issue then. You mentioned the Klan, well they could peacefully march through a city street and claim its "patriotism" but in reality its more or less a hate rally.

 

Arbitration determination cannot be contested in court? Then how was Brady's arbitration ruling was contested in Federal court:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...t-vs-nfl-latest-details-comments-and-reaction



"arbitration award was vacated"

 

Well, at least you didn't blame George Soros.

 

Will it be yours as well.

 

What I find amazing is the same folks who will vilify Kap are the same folks who want to give honor to the Confederacy. The Confederacy was nothing but a group of Traitors which wanted to destroy the United States of America and get rid of the very flag that you guys claim you honor. Can anyone explain that. All Kap is doing is exercising his right as an American.

 

Let's teach Wolfpack a little history lesson here:



Tom Brady was suspended by NFL arbitration:


''What is controversial about the Brady case is that the arbitrator (or “hearing officer” in the language of the NFL-NFLPA agreement) was Commissioner Goodell ... Here the parties contracted . . . to specifically allow the Commissioner to sit as the arbitrator in all disputes''


When Brady was not satisfied with the ruling he appealed in Federal court.


http://law.missouri.edu/arbitration...abor-arbitration-by-professor-martin-h-malin/

Article:
“DEFLATEGATE,” TOM BRADY AND LABOR ARBITRATION

 

Hands up, Don't shoot was an out right lie. Period.

 

We are too. Why you mad?

 

Oh, they are one in the same? Wonder how big that straw man is you are building? Also, do those "same people" play in the NFL or promote their social agenda on their bosses dime? I remember people photo'd at the Charlottesville march being fired because SJWs dimed them out. They were protesting on their own time, but the calls from the left to have them fired was immense.

 

Apparently they are or we would not be discussing the issue.

 

The goal is to make people discuss the issue.

 

Well, then he failed for the most part because he drew more attention to himself than his cause.

 

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am really being serious here.... do you ever get tried of showing you don't know what you are talking about? Bringing up deflategate puts you in over your head here, son.

What you quoted was the lower court ruling, which was later overruled by a higher court who stated the exact same thing I am stating here. The NFL appealed the case you quoted above to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals and the higher court overruled the lower court (and Tom Brady served his 4 game suspension to start the 2016 season). Here is an excerpt from the decision which overrules the one you quoted:

"CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, we REVERSE the judgment of the district court and REMAND with instructions for the district court to confirm the arbitration award."

Keep trying, sparky!!! LOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

So is wearing socks that depict police officers - you know, the men and women who put their lives on the line to keep us safe - as pigs.

If that's not hate speech, then nothing is.

 

The issues are important:

Free speech
Honoring those who sacrificed for our freedom
and law enforcement using their power responsibly.

These are all worthy of discussion, but in this case, we are forced to choose. While we should be united in all 3, the timing has divided us. We don't have to piss on the graves of those tho served to protest the abuse of power by law enforcement.

 

Not so fast sonny - you said players could not appeal to the courts. Here are your precise words:


"No, they can't (and if they ever tried to, it would get thrown out in a heartbeat). The NFL CBA clearly states the grievance process for a collusion grievance is to go to the designated arbitrator. Believe me, if they could have gone to court (instead of arbitration) then they would have."

What you have just quoted shows a court granted a hearing. True it ruled in favor of the NFL because the arbitrator (in this case the commish) did have the authority to rule as he did. Brady considered appealing to the US Supreme Court but decided not to.

Thus, it is you who is showing your ignorance.

You're welcomed.

 

When your government breaks laws consistently, protesting is patriotic. Silence and looking the other way is NOT patriotic.

 

As I said, protests are done to accommodate others convenience or timing. None have ever, otherwise they’d be ignored.

 

Did he? Because those discussions are still taking place, on this board even for example. If he truly failed he would’ve protested by himself 2 years ago and everyone would’ve ignored him.