Pluto to be Re Planetized. Our Science $ at Work.

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Science funding at work.
    Pluto to regain planet status.

    It should never have lost it.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/56d5b68d-dce7-3e36-acf6-f64e4741cb8d/ss_pluto-should-be-a-planet.html
    Pluto should be a planet again, researchers argue

    Pluto should be reclassified as a planet, according to a new research study. In a paper published in the journal Icarus, Philip Metzger, a planetary scientist at the University of Central Florida, argues that the reason Pluto lost its planet status is not valid. . . .

    Well duh-uh, WE ALL knew that!
    Science needs more funding so it can continue spending on Science which is a good thing. :rolleyes:



    Moi :oldman:





    No Canada-1.jpg
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Let's remember that Eris is larger than Pluto, and it's characterized as a dwarf planet, too.

    Mike Brown (and team) discovered Eris and he was part of the group that defined what a dwarf planet is.

    His twitter handle is "plutokiller"!

    There are many other Kuiper belt objects besides these two dwarf planets. And, that region is the source of objects about which we should be at least somewhat interested. They get dislodged by gravitational encounters and end up on orbits that can intersect Earth's orbit.
     
  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does look like Mike Brown and Co. are seeking more free $ $ $, don't it?


    Those of us who supply those Science $$ know
    Pluto made it as a Planet because of history.
    We will always be finding middlin sized objects that could be this or that.
    History and Walt Disney have to count for something.


    Pluto is similar to Earth in having a significant moon.
    More like a binary planet system. Or does it have 3 significant . . .
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Pluto is cool. But, it's not even the largest dwarf planet.

    I don't know why this is worth worrying about.

    And, your accusations of diving for dollars don't even make sense - as I already pointed out.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pluto can never be reclassified as a planet and wont be.
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have YOU ever been near, "diving for dollars"?

    I have.

    Pluto remains Pluto.


    A Planet :heart: by us Baby Boom generation.

    And splitting hairs over size just doesn't cover the expense, truly.


    No more funding for Brown and team. :rant:
    Replanetize Pluto and ostracize Brown.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Well, there are actual reasons for wanting to have a name for these smaller objects.

    Everybody loves babies - puppies, kittens, etc.

    Now, you get to love a baby planet!!
     
  8. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you keep your "Pet Rock"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I've never even seen one. I was well aware that they existed - advertising does that. But I don't know of any individual who actually had an official Pet Rock.

    The 70's are pretty much unknown to me. I was working then. I didn't see daylight or eat real food that decade and much of the next.
     
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  10. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well if YOU could :heart: a Dwarf Planet like a puppy or a kitten or Peter Dinklage I am so very bad
    The Pet Rock is for YOU


    Available online
    https://www.google.com/search?q=pet...CigB&biw=1067&bih=524#spd=7221850652435264314


    I seem to remember Brown appearing on a late night talk show and when introduced as the person responsible for deplanetizing Pluto, the audience booed as if he was :flagcanada:
    And I have witnessed audiences on those shows booing persons declared, :flagcanada:.
    I am not alone.
    Especially as long as I have my Trumpy Bear nearby.
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    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    There are valid reasons why Pluto was demoted. And there might be valid reasons why Pluto should be promoted. This is the scientific process at work in which science IS NOT static. It's an open-mined process. It is subject to change. Big deal...
     
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    Give me some of that thar $ $ and I'll think on it long and hard.


    Demoted?
    I thought it was a reclassification :rolleyes:


    "We will always be finding middlin sized objects that could be this or that."
    The trick is not to waste so much stumblin' over them.
    Rather how are they different by history and nature to smaller and larger ones.
    By history and nature, Pluto is a planet victimized by "diving for dollars" science.
     
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    My comments speak for themselves...
     
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    The reason Pluto was reclassified as a dwarf planet has little to do with size and much to do with where it is. Unless scientists/astronomers wanted to spend a day every week coming up with names and keeping the planet list updated there was no choice. As it is naming and tracking the many dwarf planets is becoming difficult as new ones are found and there are likely thousands of Kuiper belt beasties waiting for us to find them. By adding the "Must clear orbital path" to planet definition the mess discovery creates is eliminated.
     
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    "We will always be finding middlin sized objects that could be this or that."
    Maybe border line orbit requirements met too.
    The trick is not to waste so much stumblin' over them.
    Rather how are they different by history and nature to smaller and larger ones.
    By history and nature, Pluto is a planet victimized by "diving for dollars" science.

    And should some gas giants gang up like in a convergence
    on the Pluto Planetary System's orbits, what then? Redefined?
     
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    Should that happen names will be irrelevant other than the curse words heard as our planet gets destroyed.
     
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    Pluto is a planet. It's a Mickey Mouse planet, but it's a planet.
     
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    A dwarf-PLANET is still a PLANET. Its in the name. Duh ...
     
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    What toss... This isn't science. It's semantics.. Not science. It's a rock that has another rock that orbits it. Just like Earth, just smaller, and way farther away from the Mall......
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It happened in my life time.
    California was going to E'quake into the sea.
    Nothing happened.
    The convergence of the gas giants would be far more profound on Pluto. Yes?

    Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, all lined up in closest proximity allowed by orbital physics.
    Pluto gets a new orbit?
    Still a planet under the new improved nomenclature system?


    :hmm:

     
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    I take it you refer to the San Andreas....if so no one beyond scifi writers and tabloid magazines made such a claim. The planetary alignment you have made up would not cause much of a fuss to anything...I suggest you read less fiction and more science.
     
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    I remember the chatter when it was happening.
    Do YOU?


    Besides, California is not going to fall off into the ocean but, rather stop supporting the rest of the continent reestablishing the Great North American Sea.
    Something like this
    FutureWorld.jpg


    Moi of California :oldman:
    In California We Trust
     
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    This was being discussed on the radio last night. Did you know that Jupiter has not cleared its orbital path?
    Is Jupiter a planet?
     
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    The huge gravity field of Jupiter constantly draws new materials into its orbital path so it is replenished. The orbital path however is clear of belts of material.
     
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