Attack Against Christendom

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    "When we see someone holding an axe wrong and chopping in such a way that he hits everything but the block of firewood, we do not say, "What a wrong way for the woodcutter to go about it," but we say, "That man is not a woodcutter."--Soren Keirkegaard

    Attack Against Christendom” (1854) is a collection of pamphlets Soren Kierkegaard wrote in critique of the Lutheran State Church of Denmark. This same critical look at the Danish Church parallels the rise of Neo-Christian Fascism today although Christianity is not the official State Religion of America today---or I should say "yet." Kierkegaard’s was critical of a Christian State that mandates everyone become Christian. He saw nothing in this State Religion as remotely resembling first Century Christianity. In a State Religion Christianity becomes a business seeking—numbers, money, and power. State Christendom is not Christianity. Unfortunately, the critique of this mutant form of Christianity is also a critique of fascism.
    Christianity in American is impossible, but the cottage industry of religious factions flourish. Organized religion is distorted and overshadowed by the mechanical production of “Christians” with a market of brands of sects and cults of an objectified g-d. [I will not fully spell the word for an absolute objectified "g-d" because it commits the sin of idolatry]. This spirit of American Fascist Christian Fundamentalists produce g-d like they produce urine.

    Hebrew theologian Martin Buber describes this spirit of objectivism in his work "Eclipse of G-d.”
    The spirit and truth of Christianity becomes instead a “herd mentality” that claims to be “Christian” in the same sense they are Danes, “...If you want to be loathsome to G-d, just run with the herd.” One only has to be born to become a Danish Christian. Martin Heidegger named such a person “Das Man,” and Jean Paul Sartre as having “Bad Faith.” This situation perfectly describes American Neo-fascist Fundamentalist Christianity today.
    The mass production of Christians results in no one being a Christian. Kierkegaard warns that “The apostasy from Christianity will not come about by everybody openly renouncing Christianity; no, but slyly, cunningly, by everybody assuming the name of being Christian.”
     
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    "...for 'Christendom' is...the betrayal of Christianity; a 'Christian world' is ...apostasy from Christianity
    ."—Soren Kierkegaard, Attack Upon Christendom.



    In 1517 A.D the Protestant Reformist Martin Luther, professor of moral theology at the University of Wittenberg, Germany, nailed his 95 reformist theses on the All Saints' Church and other churches in Wittenberg. Luther was protesting the Church of his day and thus the name “protestant,” or “protest-tant” means “to bear public witness.”

    However, Martin Luther had 95 protests to post. Unfortunately, Kierkegaard laments that he only has one thesis to proclaim: “This case is far more terrible: there is only one thesis...The Christianity of the New Testament does not exist.”(Attack Upon Christendom, Soren Kierkegaard,1855-1855, trans. by Walter Lowrie, Beacon Press, p. 32, referred to as “AUC.”).

    Christendom today, Kierkegaard charges, is a “criminal offense against Christianity” (Ibid., p. 32.) for “Christianity” is the Christianity of the New Testament.” Christendom has “succeeded in making Christianity exactly the opposite of what is in the New Testament. This fraud has been achieved by “...artful tricks to conceal the difference, tricks to support the appearance that is the Christianity of the New Testament...” (Ibid., p. 33.). If the Great Imposter continues this swindle, “there can be no question of reforming, but only of throwing light upon this Christian criminal offense.” (Ibid., p. 33.). For Christendom is “...an untruth, a piece of dishonesty, which falsifies the teaching, the word-view, the life-view of Christianity....” (Ibid., p. 34.). Christ taught his disciples what it meant to be a Christian, “...that they should be the salt and to be willing be sacrificed, and that a Christian means to be salt and to be willing to be sacrificed.” (Ibid., p. 34.). Looking at Christianity in Denmark, “one would not know that Jesus Christ talks about: cross and agony and suffering, crucifying the flesh, suffering for the doctrine, being salt, being sacrificed....” (Ibid., p. 35.).

    The Great Harlot of Christendom

    In our time, Washington D.C. is our Rome: “How the fateful city has become a harlot!” (Revelations:1:21). “You trusted in your beauty and played a harlot.” (Ezekiel 16:15). The great Latin commentator Primasius (560 A.D.) said of the archetypal city of political power, Rome: “She left her Creator and prostituted herself with devils.”

    In our age the Great Whoredom has its center in the Washington D.C. filled with dandies bearing gifts of money for the Great Washington Harlot. These church grifters come wearing “silk and velvet, and stars and ribbons, and all the exquisite refinements, and the many thousands per year.” This money laid at the feet of the Great Harlot is “blood-money! “And ye mighty ones of the earth, princes and kings, and emperors—alas, that even for an instant ye could have let yourselves be beguiled by these crafty men, (Ibid., p. 36.).
    Even Judas could not compete against this treachery of Christendom for Judas was not a financial speculator and “...had so little understanding of money that for thirty pieces of silver he was ready...to dispose of such a prodigious money value as Jesus Christ represented, the greatest source of revenue ever encountered in the world, on which a million quadrillions have been realized, to dispose of it for thirty pieces of silver!” (Ibid., p. 36.).

    Christendom condemns Judas for selling Christianity too low! What an incompetent fool! Our modern televangelists and ministers are much more savvy in financial matters. The Marketplace of Religion trades in blood-money—financial derivatives based on the blood of a crucified Christ. However, there is another failure of Judas, “...he did not have himself honored and praised, almost worshiped and adored, as a true adherent of Christ...”(Ibid., p. 36.) as the pharisaic money changers and self-righteous speculators are today. Kierkegaard wrote, “Even the most abandoned scum of humanity have, after all, this advantage, that their crimes are not extolled and honored, almost worshiped and adored, as Christian virtues.” (Ibid., p. 35.).

    Christ promised to return to earth, but He posed the question: “When the Son of Man cometh, will He find faith on the earth?” (Ibid., p. 35.). NO! Christendom would have Him arrested for disrupting the financial market’s circulation of mammon within its Whoredom. Christendom’s true g-ds are mammon and Moloch, “The Devourer of Children.”
     
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    Are you arguing that there are no true Christians?
     
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    The Great Identity Theft

    Really? There are no “Christians?” Not one “Christian?” What absurdity! We have Christians by the millions and the green paper currency as our proof! Memberships are up and profits are soaring! Careers are flourishing! This is SUCCESS by any standard!

    But as Martin Buber once noted, “Success” is not a name of G-d. Kierkegaard explains the situation as this:
    Once the contrast is taken away, Christianity is an absurdity—it is merely meaningless “twaddle.”

    One the other hand Kierkegaard wrote, “ ‘Christianity’ is inversely proportionate to number / ‘State’ is directly proportionate: and for all that they have made of Christianity and State divisible into one another—to the advantage of twaddle and the priests.” (Ibid., p. 127).

    However, to place Christianity next to the State, or State Christianity, is like talking about a “yard of butter” for they are two different things. In fact, “yard” and “butter” are more compatible than Christian and State. It makes as much sense...
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    And with Him, I am confused also. There must be one Christian somewhere! I will volunteer myself as a Christian. Yes! I am a Christian! So now it is false that there are no Christians! I have taken the Christian Oath and placed my hand on the Christian New Testament book that says “Thou shalt not swear” and swore that I am a Christian (UAC, p. 130.) to enter the Marketplace of “Christianity.”

    But as one philosopher once said, the marketplace draws flies: “Where solitude endeth, there beginneth the market-place; and where the market-place beginneth, there beginneth also the noise of the great actors, and the buzzing of the poison-flies.”

    Let me give my Christian testimony just like when I was young and attending a Pentecostal Church.

    I heard a great commotion in the street yesterday morning near my home. Thankfully, it was a Saturday--not a Sunday--otherwise I would not give my testimony. My wife and I stepped outside to see what was happening. My next-door neighbors joined us to see what all the commotion was about. Cars filled the block, children and adults were going in and out of a house on the corner with furniture, electronic, appliances—there was great excitement.

    We asked, “What is happening?” and the answer was an elderly man who lived in the corner house had died a few weeks prior, and now all his possessions are being sold. Everyone was swarming the home and examining each item-- a book, a glass statue--with intense scrutiny. My neighbors purchased some garden tools, and my wife found some patio furniture. So my job was to carry these things to our house a few doors down.

    As I was walking toward home carrying all these things, I thought of my elderly neighbor who was in his late nineties when he died. This is what happens when you die: everything you worked for, sacrificed for, to obtain material possession always ends up like this. Your things are carried away in plastics bags, purchased by strangers, or simply thrown away.

    I have found deceased persons before. One time a man went into his garage and got into his car with the engine running. A few days later the police found the car in the garage, but could not see into the vehicle windows because of an undulating fluorescent green membrane was covering the windows. When they opened the car door, a mass of green blowflies swarmed out—tens of thousands of green blowflies had hatched and parasitically fed on the rotting corpse. This is what happens when you die.

    And I, a “Christian,” was doing part of the work of the blowflies—feeding off the corpse of a person I had actually spoken to on occasions. But, I am a “Christian,” it is Saturday, not Sunday, the day of rest.

    I made a good and fair exchange with the dead man. I gave him the pecuniary value equivalent in the form of a universal token of exchange—green fiat money. The exchange value was below its true market value taking into account commodity production costs, money capital, variable capital, plus costs of distribution, sales tax minus depreciation of the used outdoor furniture. I made out like a...a...a...bandit—or one could say as an effective agent of exchange value. Billy Graham would of been proud of me! As an American “Christian” one must be competent at determining the price equivalence of...Everything. The socialized skill of translation of objects into abstract pecuniary value equivalence will determine if I survive in society. And, I am a Christian—a good steward!

    As I was walking down the block with my arms full of the corpse’s possessions, I tried not to think of any New Testament verse like, “It is easier for a camel to pass...ect.,” to justify my “rational” purchase. I could not think of the “...cross, and agony, and suffering, crucifying the flesh, suffering for the doctrine, being salt, being sacrificed...”(Ibid., p. 34.).

    However, the conscience that He instilled in us is subtle, and is also transmutable as a burning bush, or a donkey, or as in my case, Words. Conscience came disgusted as the words of an old philosopher, but in the voice of an ancient American Indian sage:

    “Wrong life cannot be lived rightly.”

    Damn it! Conscience is not real, fiat money is real...well, I mean.... the furniture was now too heavy so I sat it down. Such thinking impedes commerce in a hyper-exchange society. I confessed, “I perjured myself on that troublesome book—the Christian New Testament.”

    “Lord! Behold, your servant! I am not a Christian, but only a blowfly.”

     
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    Where is the condensed version TL/DR.
     
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    Shopkeeper Jesus Would Go Bankrupt

    To the poor Carpenter from Nazareth, money is a “Satanic domain.” (Wiki: Cleansing the Temple). It is the filth that the Great Whore of Washington drinks from her “Golden Cup.”

    Christendom has turned Christianity of the New Testament on its head: instead of Jesus driving the money arbitrageurs from the Temple, the silk and velvet arbitrageurs have drove Him from the Temple. The Temple did this because He is financially illiterate—a very poor agent of exchange valuation. Let us just take for example the Loaves and Fishes Miracle. Jesus did not charge the multitude of 5,000 to hear His sermon! He could have charged each person one denarius, about one day’s wage, per admission! But then it gets even worse! As the crowd became hungry, He performed the miracle of turning five loaves and two fishes into a perfectly good concessions opportunity to charge the hungry multitudes! And then he did it again a second time for another 4,000 people!

    5,000 denarii admission
    4,000 denarii admission
    900 denarii concessions

    9,900 denarii could have been “earned,” not even counting the miracle healings! Ahhh!!! What foolishness! A poor steward this Carpenter is, indeed!

    Maybe His miracles were a very clever advertising ploy in preparation for a traveling tour. He could have named it “Jesus Unchained!” Instead, He healed the sick—and still did not charge them! What astounding naiveté! He should have been arrested and crucified!

    The Great Teacher is not teaching the Laws of G-d, but moral hazard: free entertainment, free food, and free medical care! They’re all COMMUNISTS! This is the absurdity of Christianity of the New Testament and we all should have nothing to do with this counterfeit Christianity! Miracles of these kind only breeds insidious moral hazard that will reduce us all to dirty homeless beggars! This is the Unofficial Christianity of the New Testament—not the Official Christianity of our beloved nation today!

    Close examination of the Carpenter’s history has shown His total disregard for both money and authority! Yes, two groups who are normally in opposition to one another -- the Pharisees and the Herodians-- have reported Jesus, that disgusting Communist, actually drove G-d fearing currency converters out of a Temple!!! Yet, another financial loss from His first century incompetence. And not only that, He refuses to pay taxes!!!

    Yes, the Pharisees themselves asked Him if taxes should be paid to Caesar. In response Jesus asked whose image is on the denarius, and being the clever communist that he is, said, “ "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto G-d the things that are G-d's" (Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ).

    His answer fooled us at first, and then we discover His deception: Does not the Holy Scripture say, “So G-d created man in His own image, in the image of G-d created He him; male and female created He them.”(Genesis: 1: 27)? The Creator’s own image is the mark of His ownership of all Men and all things. The clear inference is that Caesar really owns nothing so no one should pay Caesar any taxes. Subversion! Deviance! Perversion!

    So we have a serious problem with this Prince of Peace who was completely unaware of the real situation: another fault with this bumbling Messiah for He knows nothing of money and politics. We know that the Pharisees had a non-disclosure agreement with the Herodians in which the Pharisees collect the taxes from the Hebrew people for the Roman government. The Hebrew colony would revolt if forced to pay taxes directly to the Rome government. And in return, the Rome government will allow the Temples to exist and keep the monopoly of teaching the masses about the Laws of G-d! We both found this to be a comfortable and profitable arrangement. The Synagogues front for the State, and the State pays a kickback in return to the Synagogues. How else will Man learn the Laws of G-d? The State gets its taxes, and the Priests get their living subsidies. WE ARE ONE AND THE SAME. This has been the relationship between Church and State for centuries... and we are not going to let some country Hillbilly from Nazareth mess it up!
    “The less you have of Caesar's, the less you have to render to Caesar.”
    Dorothy Day, The Catholic Worker
     
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    Where is the Christian Honesty and Truth of the Corporate Industrial Ministers?

    And where is the salt of the earth? I will tell you. They are in the corporate pews with their eyes closed and heads bowed, but they are not praying to Him—they, instead, are asleep. The “Christian” battalions slumber while the mercantile ministers dressed in silk and velvet play Christianity. Where is Christian honesty?
    After the famous 1971 Lewis Powell Memo that launched a nationwide plan to infiltrate all US institutions of society--including the Churches--with Free Market Fundamentalism, and Libertarian anti-State doctrine, I witnessed a change in the Pentecostal Church I attended as a teenager. The church discouraged women cutting their hair or wearing makeup. With the exception of a wedding ring, men and women were discouraged from wearing jewelry—even a small pendent. Men and women could not swim together even in a public pool. Enforcement of these guidelines was not harsh, nor authoritarian with one exception—dancing was forbidden!

    At around 1974 (after Richard Nixon’s resignation), suddenly there was a new group of church members appearing, mainly white professional men showing up with their wives to join the church. The congregation was excited to see these new members who were professional and affluent: these were not the people that normally walk into a Pentecostal Church were the congregation would sometimes speak in tongues. These new professional members wanted to immediately start teaching Sunday school classes and take other leadership positions like treasury secretary, and deacon. Also, the “Christian Business Men’s Association” would not just visit a church gathering, but bring a professional singer and actually steer the meeting. Of course our small Pentecostal church welcomed these new members with open arms.

    I was extremely puzzled by this new development that seemed to be what the church wanted, but then some odd things happened. These new members viewed the church as essentially a business: attendance numbers became the focus of concern and building expansion plans were presented with fundraising ideas. One of the new members taught a six-week course on how to have a Christian marriage—not the regular boring scripture lessons we were used to having. But then after the Christian marriage Sunday school class the teacher’s wife promptly divorced him! The architect for the building remodeling plans was seen by a church member staggering out of a bar drunk with a women on his arm. Out of embarrassment the architect left the church falsely assuming no help, or compassion would be given by the congregation. He was only looking for a building commission. All of this did not make any since. I accidentally ran into the “marriage counselor” at the university one day and he became outraged that I was studying philosophy! And I STILL did not get it because of my habituated respect for authority.

    They were not the kind of people you would go to with a personal problem because they were defensive, judgmental, dogmatic, and authoritarian. Also, the type of minister changed; these were professional ministers—careerists--that were looking for large churches, high pay, and political advancement—not the missionary minded ministers.

    It was not long after the shift in church culture that I went to the university. I remember being somewhat puzzled by all these events, but didn’t understand what was happening until many decades later --then it started to make sense. This was a very small part of Justice Powell’s fascist plan for a coup to turn the churches into political agents of the business class. The Church of the Apostles literally became the Church of the Jerks.
    The end result was I left the church. This experience did not destroy my belief is spirituality, but my faith is religious institutions was damaged. After this time, about 1974, began an accelerated growth of megachurches, televangelists, and the rise of the “Prosperity Gospel.”
    “You are attacking the holy teachings of our Church and Savior! Heresy! Slander! Sinner! Backslider! Terrorist! ...you...Dancer!!!"
    The ‘Good News’ message gradually became the “sweet meat” of the Christian Prosperity Gospel. Christianity is turned on it head. Vast wealth is not to be shunned; rather it was proof of G-d’s approval, of one’s elite social status demonstrating all the principles of the New Testament. Christianity is now a market financial planning strategy with guaranteed pecuniary rewards. Refusal to sign up is evidence of lack of faith. In practice, poverty signifies G-d’s disapproval, and absence. [My bolded text for emphasis].
     
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    What else should one expect but perversion of the foundational teachings of a religion to fit the secular desires and needs of its followers?

    Since religion is a construction of humans, it stands to reason that humans will "customize" their interpretations as needs must.

    It ain't just christians.

    HOw many evangelical americans eithe condone or ignore kidnapping and incarcerating the innocent children of strangers in need of christian love?
     
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    The Latent Church

    "Plato told Aristotle no one should make more than five times the pay of the lowest member of society. J.P. Morgan said 20 times. Jesus advocated a negative differential - that's why they killed him." – Graef Crystal


    It is ironic that the non-Christian, the irreligious, and the Liberal Democrats have to remind the Christian Right-Wing what principles Christianity really stand for. One would expect the reverse.

    First century Christianity emerged from Christ’s pacifist liberal protest against established orthodox belief. According to first century Christians, by rejecting dogmatic authority, he was fulfilling the true meaning and purpose of Judaic Orthodoxy of his time. This protest also extended to the State’s claim to power and authority. We see this historical cycle of autonomy (Protest) and new heteronomy (established authority) over and over again in the secular and religious realms. Christianity first appeared as a critique of Authority. Christ was a heretic of the orthodoxy of his time.

    Christianity loses its authenticity to the degree it submits, or surrenders, to the dogmatisms of heteronomy. The Roman Emperor Constantine I was converted to Christianity in 312 A.D. and with his Edict of Milan (313 A.D.) he ended the persecution of Christians. Emperor Theodosius later declared Christianity the official religion of the Rome Empire in 382 A.D. Christianity was truly conquered when it became the official religion of the Roman State. This integration of Church and State is called “Constantinism” and prepared the way for the Medieval Inquisitions—and there were many. After the integrating process of Constantinism, authentic Christianity is then transformed into uncritical conformist “Christendom.”

    It is exactly this “Mass” Christianity, or religion of the Crowd, that Soren Kierkegaard aimed ten polemical tracks, published collectively as “Attack Against Christendom.” Kierkegaard attacked Denmark’s State Church by calling it corrupt, and an “illusion” of Christianity.

    There is more recognition of first century New Testament Christian principles in secular Progressive society than in the today’s organized churches of the Christian Right-Wing. The organized Christian Right-Wing has become a church of idolatrous religious nationalists. With American Progressives and Secular Humanists re-emphasizing human empathy and the social duties of Christianity, they have become an external latent church of conscience. This latent church is based on the universality of moral principles:
    Paul Tillich (1886-1965) was a German born American theologian. He taught theology at the University of Berlin, Marburg, Dresden, Frankfurt and Leipzig. Tillich among the first to oppose the Nazis movement and was the first non-Jewish professor to be dismissed from the German University system by the Nazis. The Nazi’s targets where those they labeled with carefully crafted propagandistic names such as “liberals,” “leftists,” “communists,” and “humanist.” Tillich fled Nazi Germany and was accepted to teach at the Union Theological Seminary in the United States and he brought with him the trauma and historical memory of the fascists invading German society and churches by bribery, force, and deception.

    One of the many egregious crimes of Nazi fascism was its crude and profane entry into the realm of spiritual consciousness. This historical experience of fascism influenced Tillich’s philosophical thought and theological writings throughout the rest of his life and appear in his own personal political choices and commentary. He comprehended the disappointment and alienation individuals in modern secular society developed toward the organized church because of its moral failure to wholly resist demonic fascism in its capitalistic (Italy) and socialistic (German) forms.

    The Catholic and Protestant churches competed for Nazi favoritism in the hope of securing the monopoly of managing the German public educational system. The Catholic Church won the prize only because it was more organized and centralized than the Protestant Churches. This moral failure of organized Christianity submitting to Hitler has damaged it credibility for almost a hundred years. And it appears to be happening once again today, but in a collapsing America. The atheists have a sound moral case to despise organized Christianity given its poor track record of supporting tyranny throughout the centuries.
    The theologian Paul Tillich recounts Nazism and Religious Nationalism in Germany during the 1930s and how some “Christians” cooperated with them. The Christian Socialists tried to warn of the coming danger, but the warnings were ignored.
    Just as it is happening today in America, nationalism emerged in Nazi Germany with the patina of Christian symbolism—and it was only symbolism. All nationalism is a violation of the most “fundamental” principle of New Testament Christianity—the sin of idolatry.
    Capitalism is essentially a demonic enterprise.
    Martin Buber, an existentialist theologian, tried to counter the rising fascist tide by arguing that the doctrine of fallen man cannot be used to justify establishing a Police State:
    After living through the rise of Nazism in Germany in which there were 80 million casualties worldwide and witnessing the organized church’s moral failure to resist demonic forces, Paul Tillich concluded, “All institutions, including the church, are inherently demonic.”
     
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    The Cathedral of Light.

    Rev. Billy Graham's last Public Fascist Rally: Shivering in the ‘Light’ of the Silver Shirts


    The personal minister of the famous burglar Richard Nixon and giggling murder Bush Jr. was the news tonight. I remember NBC news actually broadcasted from an arena where Billy Graham is holding his last public sermon. So I decided to do a little research on old Billy Boy especially since he is said to have converted our cocaine-snorting president. Well, you’ll never believe what I found. I don’t remember learning any of this in Sunday school. Here is the historical origin of the “Christian” Reverend Billy Graham.

    Most Americans are completely unaware of the mass of killing of minorities in the American South by the KKK which intensified with during WWII. Here are only two examples, but thousands were murdered:
    There is an important reason that the history of the KKK’s rise in the 1920’s is not taught in schools or recorded in American History books: it reveals the names of key leaders of the KKK in America at that time. In particular, the names of Gerald Winrod and William Bell Riley lead directly to the Reverend Billy Graham. Pay close attention to Riley’s history. Almost all Americans--especially American Christians--have no knowledge of Graham’s background, but there are some that know this history very well.[ All bold text is my emphasis]
    Riley's “Christian” sermons where indistinguishable from Hitler's propaganda and, in fact, he greatly contributed to Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda. In one famous sermon entitled "Shivering at the sight of a shirt" supported the Fascist Silver Shirts (of the Silver Legion of America). The Silver Shirts called themselves the "defenders of the Constitution."
    Riley was a genuine rabid racists and fascist who went on to establish the Christian Northwestern Theological Seminary in Minnesota. It was the largest “Bible school” in the world at the time with 1,200 students enrolled.
    At the end of Riley’s murderous racist fascist career he needed to select a new leader for the Northwestern Theological Seminary. Riley found a promising young student to take over the Seminary as its President:
    After the death of this vicious fascist, William Riley, the honorable Rev. Billy Graham led the funeral services. The exact eulogy Graham gave for Riley is not known.

    It was from this background that the “Christian” Reverend Billy Graham began his career. And like today, this fascist movement was financial supported by wealthy white Americans Businessmen:
    American White Supremacist fascist theological groups have hid this historical background of Graham for decades. The American Baptist Church especially has suppressed it historical association with Christian Fascism and the KKK. These financiers launched Billy Graham to a good start, but there was one person that really pushed Graham into the American spotlight and kept them there for the rest of Graham’s career.
    Henry Luce was the owner of Time magazine and later Time/Life magazines and was a admirer of Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini, the Italian Fascist, of which Luce profiled in an issue of Time magazine.

    ...the Reverend Billy Graham has been puffed up every since.
     
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    Before continuing with the sad case of the Reverend Billy Graham, I want to give thanks to a G-dly Priestly man that has done a great service for us all; although, like the grace of G-d, we are completely undeserving of this generous palmstroke.

    For instead of selling out our Savior for thirty pieces of silver, he sacrificed himself to preserve this emetic that Kierkegaard has formulate for us so that we may vomit out the pus which is today called “Christianity” and that the future children of G-d will know, “As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly” (Proverbs: 26:11).

    This Christianly man of the New Testament, Walter Lowrie, of the Episcopal Church labored in the field for many years translating all the works of Soren Kierkegaard including “Attack Upon Christendom,” and unlike the mercantile speculative ministers of today, did not copyright his translation of Kierkegaard’s message from G-d.

    Consequently, my gleaning of the words of Kierkegaard in “Attack Upon Christendom” is not copyrighted under US Fascist Law.

    Generous Palmstroke
     
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    Lucifer

    Henry Luce’s media empire has for almost a century ruled our political lives.

    Henry Luce founded Time magazine in 1923 with funding by the American oligarch J.P. Morgan and used his media empire to promote fascist movements such as Benito Mussolini as he waged war in Africa. Luce published nine editions of Time magazine with Mussolini’s picture on the cover. Luce supported the fascist side in the Spanish Civil War (Nationalist) against the forces George Orwell fought with (Republicans) before being wounded by a sniper. And most disturbingly, Luce was also involved in the coup to overthrow FDR that General Smedley Butler exposed in 1934. Luce used a December issue of Time magazine to mock Butler’s testimony in an effort to discredit him.

    The American oligarchs and their personal media empires are continuing the tradition of eliminating any political candidate that would weaken their powerful hold of our political system. Louis B. Mayer’s propaganda campaign against Upton Sinclair’s 1934 California election for governor is another example of sabotage and repression of the electorate by American oligarchs when they feel threatened. The article below by Edwin Krales recounts the rise of Henry Luce’s media empire.
    An article by Steven P. Meyer and Jeffrey Steinberg has a particularly good overview of Henry Luce’s influence on American foreign policy during the Great War on Fascism—Luce supported the Italian Fascists. Here are just a few major points.
    Luce’s role in the plot to overthrow FDR is almost totally blacked out of American history. Luce worked hard using his media empire outlets of Time, Life, and Fortune magazines to discredit General Smedley Butler when he exposed the plot by American businessmen to replace FDR with a fascist government. Read the article above on Luce…. vicious.

    Enough of Luce.
     
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    Billy Graham played a legitimizing role for Nixon, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. impressing on the American public mind that whatever actions America might take, it could do no wrong. Graham never spoke up when it counted during the Civil Rights struggle of the 60’s, supported the Vietnam War during the Nixon Administration—one of the most corrupt in American history. Graham represented Holiness, of conscience, but he was silent when extreme evil was being done: Reverend Graham gave legitimacy to government involvement of the Vietnam War-this was his role.

    The Reverend’s antisemitism displayed while in private discussions with Richard Nixon is even more disturbing given his history with Riley.

    America media never discuss this historical background—journalists are uncritical. During the 1930’s fascism became very popular causing greater agitation of racial relations, spontaneous vigilantly lynching, open admiration for Hitler, and Mussolini. We see the same pattern today as in the 1930’s with evolution debates dividing Christians and non-Christians. Reverend Graham legitimized American imperialism, militarism and nationalism. Reverend Graham has functioned as a “transmitter” for the American Right-Wing. And for this reason Randolph Hearst and Henry Luce helped launch Graham’s public ministry. To summarize:
    • Billy Graham began his career as a spokesman of a fundamentalist neo-fascist group lead by William B. Riley that believed in a theocracy.
    • In 1902, Riley founded Northwestern Bible Training School, which in 1935 became the Northwestern Theological Seminary and Billy Graham was appointed as the leader. This is evidence that Riley and Graham shared the same philosophical beliefs.
    • Billy Graham is held as a great moral leader but was recorded talking to one of the most corrupt president in American history making anti-semitic remarks blaming Jews for the ills of American society.
    • Billy Graham’s career was subsidized and publicized by at least three fanatical fascists and media owners: Randolph Hearst, Henry Luce, and Russell Maguire.
    • Billy Graham functioned as a legitimizer and transmitter of the far Right Wing and the US government by his role as the personal ‘minister’ of numerous presidents. As a moral leader he never spoke out against war, poverty, racism, anti-Semitism, and corporate corruption even today.
    In addition—astoundingly--the Reverend Graham publicly advocated the corporatization of American Churches. It turned out to be the beginning of many takeovers of the churches by corporations.
    According to Francis Schaeffer, Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham--then arguably the three most famous and influential leaders in the American Protestant Church world--“God’s people” had a moral duty to change the government of the United States.

    Haldeman and Reverend Graham calmly discussed worldwide Jewish conspiracies.
    During the Nixon Administration, Reverend Graham was de facto a State sanctioned minister of the United States and was present during the most violent and destabilizing moments in the country’s history.
    The Reverend Graham expressed no disapproval of the students killed at Kent State:
    The Billy Graham Evangelical Association is a massive corporation with offices all over the world. There been no reports of financial fraud that I can find on the Internet. The article below reports Graham only takes an annual salary of $24,500 from the Billy Graham Evangelical Association.
     
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    My, my.. does this mean you have some super secret spirituality that gives you insight into Absolute Truth? You seem to blast everyone and everything... but your beliefs. How are you exempt from deception and misunderstanding? If everyone else is wrong, why not you, too?
     
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    There aren't any true Christians. The only true Christian died on the cross.
     
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    Well, I thought I knew where that button was...you know...the permanent one...i..g..o...r..Oh! there it i...
     
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    Jesus wasn't a Christian, he was a Jew.
     
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    Jesus was the only christian
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    It would be 360 years before Christians came about.
     
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    Nowadays, there are billions who are followers of Jesus Christ,
    you can ask each and everyone of them why they were called themselves Christians.
     
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    Yeshua was not a Christian. He was a Jew.
     
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    He was the only Christian. He may have been Jewish but he was the only Christian.
     
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    People follow most of Paul's doctrine; hardly anyone follows what Yeshua preached.
     
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    You don't appear to know what the biblical Christian doctrine is.
     

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