I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

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  1. Bassman

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    No, I shall proceed apart from the Satanic lies you just spewed. Abortion is a brutal massacre of our most innocent, the unborn child.
     
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    Thank you for your opinion. Abortion is a beautiful and wonderful thing.
     
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    "Unborn Child" in an oxymoron as a human is not considered a child until long after birth. There is a very good reason for words such as Baby, infant, toddler and such....just as we have words for the Zygote, Fetus and Egg.
     
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    What do you mean? Those links present actual research and actual data, it is as verified as it can get.
     
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    I am sorry, but those are not just random blog posts.
     
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    The first link is to an unreferenced paper published by a right wing think tank. The "graphs" are dated 1995 so nearly 20 years old. All in all a fail

    Second link is to the daily fail - enough said

    The third is a poorly referenced blog post selling someone's book

    Science is linking to well referenced published journal articles
     
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    No those links represent a google search and grab of whatever ***** floats to the top of the internet

    Use google scholar if you want science
     
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    If they are not published referenced journal articles then that is exactly what they are
     
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    Ooooops! Someone else who does not understand about failure rates with contraceptives
     
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    If you do not like science that is your problem.
     
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    There are about 20 contraceptives, it is viritually impossible for them to fail.
     
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    Don't smoke and you won't get smoking induced lung cancer!!!
     
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    I love science but what you posted is NOT science

    Science is referenced published journal articles

    Or well respesites like this CDC Guttmacher and WHO
     
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    Haven't ever read the real stats have you?
    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states
     
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    1. Would you wish for your girlfriend/wife/sister/daughter to have an abortion?
    2. Would you rather impregnate a woman you love or someone random chick you picked up at the club on a Friday night?
    3. Would you say you are happy that your parents decided to have you?
    4.Would you say someone who has a lot of unprotected sex and catches an STD has been irresponsible?
    5. Would you say that it is better to treat a woman with love than treating her as a piece of meat for your own sexual cravings?
    6. Would you agree that abortion is not a contreception?
    7. Would you agree it, generally, is better to wait with sex until you are in a stable relationship?
    8. Would you say not having to have an abortion is prefereble over having to have an abortion?
    9. Can you put the legal aspects of abortion aside and look at it from a perspective of morals or are you too dogmatic for that?
    10. Is a man who convinces the woman to abort their child doing a good thing (note that he convinces and doesn't force her)?
     
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    Would you be happy that your sister died because she could not access an abortion?

    Maternal mortality is linked to restrictive legislation on abortion
     
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    Says the person using daily mail as a science resource :roll:
     
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    You want women to use 20 types of birth control?


    Do you know NO one is obliged to use birth control?

    Bet ya didn't but it's true...
     
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    WTF does that crap have to do with :

    • More than half of all U.S. abortion patients in 2014 were in their 20s: Patients aged 20–24 obtained 34% of all abortions, and patients aged 25–29 obtained 27%.6
    • Twelve percent of abortion patients in 2014 were adolescents: Those aged 18–19 accounted for 8% of all abortions, 15–17-year-olds for 3% and those younger than 15 for 0.2%.6
    • White patients accounted for 39% of abortion procedures in 2014, blacks for 28%, Hispanics for 25% and patients of other races and ethnicities for 9%.6
    • Seventeen percent of abortion patients in 2014 identified as mainline Protestant, 13% as evangelical Protestant and 24% as Catholic; 38% reported no religious affiliation and the remaining 8% reported some other affiliation.6
    • The vast majority (94%) of abortion patients in 2014 identified as heterosexual or straight. Four percent of patients said they were bisexual, while 0.3% identified as homosexual, gay or lesbian and 1% identified as “something else.”6
    • In 2014, some 46% of all abortion patients had never married and were not cohabiting. However, nearly half were living with a male partner in the month they became pregnant, including 14% who were married and 31% who were cohabiting.6
    • Fifty-nine percent of abortions in 2014 were obtained by patients who had had at least one birth.6
    • Some 75% of abortion patients in 2014 were poor or low-income. Twenty-six percent of patients had incomes of 100–199% of the federal poverty level, and 49% had incomes of less than 100% of the federal poverty level ($15,730 for a family of two).*6

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states
     
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    How does this concern me, someone who isn't even against abortion?
     
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