Proud Boys are not "white nationalists"

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  1. For Topical Use Only

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    I suppose it's passed by your scant awareness that you've simply and concisely described trumpkins.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Unable, or sometimes knowingly unwilling, to notice nazi sentiment and behaviour right in front of the snout and adopting fake news as strategy.

    trumpkinism.
     
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    Antifa proved they cant protest in peace..time to authorize brute force for police in these matters
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I lack your imagination.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes they are violent towards fascists. Its what they do. You know the old tactic "fight fire with fire". Can't say I agree with the violence,but for damn sure I agree with confronting those scumbag facist lowlifes.
     
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    Perhaps a new set of specs might help.
     
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    NAZI!-colored?
     
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    Violent right-wing gang, is how I describe them. Apparently there is a frustration factor at play.

    When I was in high school, another boy wanted to fight me because I had ran faster than he did. Before it came to blows, a teacher had interviened. In class, the teacher said something to me about it being better to be a lover than a fighter. There was this girl in class, who I liked quite a bit. As the teacher spoke, she gave me a look, that fixed firmly on my head, the direction I was going to take. I get the feeling that the Poor Boys are those who took the other path.
     
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    Nah, they are not violent per se. They only defend themselves.
     
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    The Poisonous Allure of Right-Wing Violence
    Gavin McInnes claims to be a defender of normality—he’s not.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/17/gavin-mcinnes-right-wing-violence-221578

    McInnes is open about his glorification of violence. In a speech explaining Proud Boys, McInnes described a clash with antifa outside a speech he gave at NYU last year: “My guys are left to fight. And here’s the crucial part: We do. And we beat the crap out of them.” He related what a Proud Boy who got arrested told him afterward: “It was really, really fun.” According to McInnes, “Violence doesn’t feel good. Justified violence feels great. And fighting solves everything.”
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    So..........he advocates mob rule..............and the Golfer-in-Chief loves it.
     
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    And he's a Canukistani.

    How MAGA is that.
     
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    clear corrective lenses is all ya need. You should at least be able to read the evidence you ignore.
     
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    Nah. I just don't wanna imagine that there are NAZI!s everywhere.

    If others want to, that's OK. I guess.

    I'd prefer that no one beat up the people that they imagine are NAZI!s, though.
     
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    I agree. I think it is entirely wrong to call right-wing following conservatives/Republicans/Christians Nazis or Fascists. They are are menace all their own, with their own unique bad acts.
     
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    No need to imagine. They aren't everywhere which is a good thing.

    Thing about nazis and nationalists and racists of all colors is most are way to cowardly to declare themselves and get all snowflakey when you accuse them usually for obvious things like carrying a nazi flag, or shooting white power hand signs, or using trigger words or expressing certain political opinions or marching with a bunch of other racist scum.

    I do understand that its in the interests of the right to think the left is calling everyone on the right a bunch of fascist nazis. It turns their focus towards the left so they can blissfully ignore the fact that their party has chosen to lie down with the fascist scum.
     
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    The AntiFa, in the Pacific Northwest, are part of the greater Anarchist movement. The ones who caused the riots in Seattle when the G8 came to town. I used to be a contributing writer and artist, to anarchist and other related underground magazines, pre-Internet. The mindset is based on the idea of being free from corporate rule.

    Corporations are mostly owned and ran by people who inherited their wealth, who profit the most, even though they do almost no work. It is these people who benefit most from Republican rule. When violent right-wing gangs, like Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, are invading our towns, the Anarchists see corporates tools.

    What sets the Pacific Northwest apart from the rest of the country, is that we, as a society, as a culture, have decided that some things are more important than money. Companies are welcome here, but they have to play by our rules, not theirs. It is why the Pacific Northwest, is both full of natural beauty, and has highly productive industry, and the people tend to be so much healthier than elsewhere.

    Perhaps the Anarchists can't have a go at people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mitch McConnell, and Donald tRump, but they sure can have a go at their dupes, especially those who trash talk their city and their culture, and are obviously looking for a fight.

    They last time Patriot Prayer came to town, they had snipers on the roof of a parking garage. The police stopped them before they got their guns out of their cases.

    I agree with mayor Ted Wheeler, if these continual invasions by violent right-wing gangs, aren't stopped, people are going to get killed.
     
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    I already said it was OK with me. I don't know what more you want from me.

    You have my permission to play NAZI!. Go ahead. Play. I don't care.
     
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    Violence is violence, if you condemn some but justify others...they have a word for that.
     
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb, here.

    Any white supremacist group that allows non-whites to join, ain't doing it right.
     
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    Exactly, but the left needs to sell their failed meme even as us normal people, who know words have meanings, sit back and laugh at such idiocy.
     
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    The concept is sort of true, in a way. They are not all racists. They are also 4ssholes, bigots of various forms, macho morons, and bored people who need an outlet for their fear and hate.
     
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