Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

Really? I have been a Marriage and Family therapist for 27 years and am happily married with two kids....what is your expertise in this area? LOL

 

And a societal problem that we need to deal with as we suffer the consequences as a society. And that proof the children who have mothers who have multi-men in and out of her life have just as good an outcome as children whose mother and father are long term throughout their lives parents is.............

 

IF they "work through the problems""....that's a big "if". I know a couple that fought, hated, showed total disrespect for each other in front of their kids for 25 years, they still do it and their kids are screwed...NONE have a normal happy relationship ..

So my statement stands
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So you think if two parents stay together fighting, hating, being physically abusive, treating each other like dirt then children will have more of a tendency to get married because it looks like so much fun.... how odd..

 

Far more than yours since you don't even grasp the purpose and symbolism of a wedding ceremony and the rings and that you believe children raised in homes where the mother have mulitple men in and out their lives as do children in a solid nuclear family. Pity your patients, you don't even appear to support marriage at all.

 

Again, what's your solution?

Forced marriages?

Make divorce illegal?

Preaching on street corners?

FORCING people to listen to your advice?



It's crazy to think that because two people stay together for 50 years they raised their children correctly...

 

It is still a personal commitment to each other and an announcement to the world that these two people are on and not to be separate by others and that union to be respected. I don't know there is much difference between divorces rates between those or religious faith and those who do not share that religions faith. Nor do I know there is a lack of religious faith with single mothers.

 

So if that couple would have had different partners they would miraculously become different people who no longer disrespected their partners and no longer subjected their children to their poor relationship behaviors?

 

Scroll back and you will see no mention of force or the law.

What is your solution to insure more children are raised in a nuclear family with a mother and a father in their lives?

Do you believe fathers are not important in children's lives, that it makes no difference to child if they have a father?

 

Is it crazy to think that? Stability is the most important thing for kids.

“Here are the necessities every kid needs:
1. A reliable environment
Children need to know they are protected (as much as possible) from the outside world. As they begin to develop, their senses are heightened based on what is around them. If there is constant moving around, children find it difficult to feel safe. They naturally begin to wonder why they are being moved from place to place. This is especially true of children who are moved from foster home to foster home. Their surroundings must remain stable and consistent. They relate to knowing where to find their favorite stuffed animal in their room, for example. It helps them develop trust.

Believe it or not, kids love the familiarity that comes with routines. It helps them understand appropriate boundaries and, as they age, they begin to express their own boundaries on their environment and on the people they are surrounded by.”

 

Nope you can poor and do and if fact you will be less poor.

 

A stably and reliably abusive and unhappy environment, however, is not good for kids . Staying together just for the kids is a bad idea and very presumptuous to ask of people. Having children is not a sentence to pure selflessness. And unhappy people foter unhappy environments.

 

“Staying together just for the kids is a bad idea and very presumptuous to ask of people. Having children is not a sentence to pure selflessness. And unhappy people foter unhappy environments” I don’t disagree but I’m of the opinion large issues in people’s marriages lie within themselves and changing the partner is merely delaying the inevitable unhappiness when they realize the new partner cannot fill the missing holes in themselves. People usually always take the path of least resistance when marriage problems come up by placing the blame on the other partner. That’s a very short sided view and is damaging to the children in the long term

 

Abuse is the 10th cause of divorce do you know what the 1st cause is? Infedelitly and would you like to guess who initiates divorces the mostly statistically women.

 

Great attitude to children.

 

yes, it's all "#### the kids, we want our funz"

 

Thank you for spelling it out!

The vile self-indulgence of disregarding the impacts on children makes me literally nauseous.

 

Is that based on your own scientific research? Come on. This hike in divorce is mostly due to empowerment of women. No longer are they bound by patriarchal and religious nonsense to lives they do not want.

 

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Actually, commitment has little to nothing to do with 'romance' (or the heart, as you put it). It's a function of responsibility, pragmatics, hard work, and maturity ... not emotions.

 

The stability and commitment (to a task, if you will) modelled in 50 years of marriage, has tangible benefits for children. Unless the parents are problematically dysfunctional, of course. But then we're not talking about such failures, we're talking about ordinary, well-adjusted adults.

 

No here’s a quote that backs up what I say ——

“A University of College London study published recently discovered something we knew but denied: We’re lazy.

Of course, this isn’t unique to humans. Everything takes the path of least resistance: water, electricity, and Google maps. Wolves evolved into domesticated dogs because it was easier to scavenge on human trash than track down prey.”

What about the abuse you were acting as if it was so rampant? It’s number 10 on the list for reasons to divorce and number 1 being cheating.

 

For one, you must demonstrate a vast increase in this laziness, and specifically the type in your claim, to show a correlation to the vast increase in divorce. You did not, and so have lent no support, circumstantial or otherwise, to your claim.

Furthermore, most abuse is not reported, and it comes in degrees. And i didn't name it as the number one cause, anyway. I named the empowerment of women as the number one cause. Because it is. And you sidestepped that.

 

Do you not believe in morality?

 

The hike is mostly due to people to 1. Society doesn’t frown on divorce, infidelity, and single parents 2. Getting to the core problems generally speaking marriage problems are problems of oneself manifested onto the relationship and instead of facing the possibility that it might be a problem manifested from within they give up and divorce and carry there problems unto their new relationships and children. I believe it is a problem from within because if you look at the rate of divorce it increases with every failed marriage.

 

Its not.