Why do liberals want no limit open borders?

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  1. dagosa

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    Keeping preexisting conditions exemption and paying private for profit insurance companies that have an overhead 6 to 8 times Medicare. What’s the GOP plan ? Wow, it’s like “ don’t get sick and ifyou do, die early.”

    The last thing you guys want is the idea there might be some brown and black people getting healthcare.
     
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    Moore is atypical. He gets up and looks in the mirror every morning. Always repulsed no doubt, but not in denial. Well, except for maybe still thinking he's got a shot with Megyn Kelly.
     
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    Michael Moore, the guy who talks like liberal and looks like a fat old white conservative. On looks alone, Michael could be mistaken for a member of Trumps cabinet. The difference is, he does have empathy while Trump just dreams about pinching his daughter...at least that’s what people are saying.
     
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    Yeah. :roll: Newt Gingrich is a fat old republican. Moore must have moved to Flint Michigan in 2014, explaining why he hasn't bathed since then.
     
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    Preexisting conditions in obamacare has nothing to do with Medicare for seniors
     
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    So, you want to eliminate Obamacare ? That means no preexisting conditions exemption.

    The GOP is on record raising the retirement age which means raising the age of Medicare ( they are linked). That means the age at which preexisting conditions exemption is raised too for the elderly...dah.

    Obamacare has nothing to do with Medicare ? Ha, ha . Were you asleep for the last 8 years ? A plethora of things were added to Medicare healthcare to stay in line with Obamacare including free exams (no 20% copay )and more screening for Medicare patients.

    This is why you guys support Trump. You pay no attention to being duped. Sad, to, the basic Medicare and social security trust fund are in the Black...that means that if benefits are cut, which McConnellsays by 5%, your payroll taxes will then be used to help pay down the deficits created by the tax cuts for the top 1%. How do I know this stuff is all true...I can read.
     
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    Many obamacare devotees want to be able to have no insurance for as long as they are young and healthy and then jump into an insurance plan if something bad happens to them
     
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    There are two policies on the left and right that baffle me.

    On the left- why the left does not want illegals deported so that the lower rung Americans can have more jobs and the resulting increased wages that would result.

    On the right- the limiting of voter opportunity while the country spend millions in ads to pump up the vote. They have it easier to buy a firearm than to vote.
     
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    I dont object to legal voters voting once per election

    All we want is proper ID to register and at the polling place
     
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    That’s why they had the mandate. It’s the GOP that did away with it. You do know that’s how insurance works.
    When you’re healthy, you still oatpy but do you want to pay the extra private for profit rates ? Of course not. Single payer is taken out like a payroll tax but it’s significantly lower then oremiuns oayed to insurabce companies.
    How ekes can you pay for people with preexisting conditions then to have a mandate. It’s amazing how slow you guys are to understand that insuring everyone is cheaper per person. But, everyone has to contribute because like Medicare, everyone will need it at some point. You listen to Faux way too much.
     
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    30 procecuted casses out of 70 million ? You need to get a life and worry about something else.
    Proper ID ? In some stares, they have IDs but are changing the ID requirements without notifying the voters. That’s call voter suppression.

    Do you know what the penalties are for federal voter fraud ?
     
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    Not so. Sanctuary cities are protecting illegal aliens, and not dreamers. This whole thing is to destabilize our government. Civil war could be the end results if history repeats itself.
     
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    You need to do more reading before you generalize too much.
     
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    How about I take care of my needs and responsibilities, you take care of yours. No free medical for adults, and only lifesaving for children. We have to let natural selection run it's course.
     
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    Why do liberals think healthcare should be free?

    Nothing else in life is free
     
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    Sanctuary cities don’t protect anyone. They just refuse to do the job of ICE. The only ones contemplating* civil wars, are racists.
    The GOP and lie a minute Donald is destabilizing the giv..
     
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    I believe there are many more cases of voter fraud
     
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    I agree dagosa, It is much more difficult to buy a firearm than vote. But everyone has their own lies I guess. To buy a firearm YOU MUST HAVE ID government issued. To vote, you want anyone to step up and say "I WANT TO VOTE WITH NO ID???? Think it through observing, think it through.
     
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    The mayor of oakland got wind of an ICE raid and issued a public warning to illegals in her city

    That goes far beyond sitting on her hands
     
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    That is the stooopidist thing I’ve ever heard. Emergency room care is the most expensive of all care as childhood care. So, everyone who has an accident and has no insurance, is left on the side of the road to die.
     
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    Sorry, you are wrong. They are actively protecting illegal aliens. I could charge the city's board members with Sedition, and get convictions.
     
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    Note how the OP has posed this in the form of a leading question without the slightest substantiation to back up his claim.


    Please re-phrase your query in an objective form and provide backup to your claim if you wish to be believed.
     
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    Wrong. I can buy a firearm private sale and am not required to produce any ID. I need an ID to register to vote. Where do you live.......
     
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    Don't you think they should have though about dying before buying a cell phone and paying the monthly bill rather than plan for things that happen. It is simply called "irresponsibility", or better know as the survival of the fittest. Those who don't have insurance do not have the right to access my money to pay for their irresponsibility. I am responsible for me, you are responsible for you. So to you, theft via the tax system is A-ok?
     
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    Wrong........do some reading instead of guessing and listening to those stoooopud blonds in Faux news.
     
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