Democrats 2020: 50 states, 50 candidates

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  1. Phil

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    I know what you're thinking. We can't handle 50 candidates in the Democratic primary. Just 3 years ago when the GOP list peaked at 17 everyone agreed that was too many, even the 17. Only political junkies knew who they all were before they announced and almost no one could name them all without looking.

    Don't worry. That list quickly was reduced to 12 by Iowa, 9 by New Hampshire, 6 in South Carolina and 5 on Super Tuesday. Only voters in the first few states will have to think about most of them.

    The other thing you may be thinking is: why am I posting this before the 2018 midterms?

    That's easy. I have a feeling someone will announce his or her candidacy on election night or the day after and I want this on file before that happens.

    Anyone can plainly see that while the Democratic Party brags about diversity of colors and eccentricities they offer very little variety of political opinions and geographical diversity.

    Did anyone notice no candidate from west of the Mississippi River made the final 2 since 1992. Did anyone notice that some states have more Elvis sightings than Democrat sightings?

    What I propose is simple.

    Every state has a Democratic Party Committee. Each of those groups should search the state up and down, seeking the best representative to join the 2020 race and do whatever it takes to get that name on the ballot in the first 4 races. What happens next is up to the voters.

    You have very little to worry about with regards to the outcome. If-hypothetically-the local candidate won every state, someone finishing second consistently would still get proportional delegates and possibly earn a first ballot nomination. If not the superdelegates will see he gets there somehow.

    In the meantime, every faction of the party will be represented at least briefly.

    I can't do all the work for you, but I came up with my list.

    Alabama: Doug Jones

    Alaska: Mark Begich

    Arizona: Ann Kirkptrick

    Arkansas: Mike Ross

    California: Kamala Harris

    Colorado: Diana DeGette

    Connecticutt: Daniel Malloy

    Delaware: Joe Biden

    Florida: Bill Nelson

    Georgia: Cynthia McKinney

    Hawaii: Brian Schatz

    Idaho: Larry LaRocco

    Illinois: Arne Duncan

    Indiana: Evan Bayh

    Iowa: Tom Vilsack

    Kansas: Kathleen Sebellius

    Kentucky: Allison Grimes

    Louisiana: John Bel Edwards

    Maine: John Baldacci

    Maryland: Martin O'Malley

    Massachusetts: Deval Patrick

    Michigan: Jennifer Granholm

    Minnesota: Mark Dayton

    Mississippi: Ronnie Musgrove

    Missouri: Claire McCaskill

    Montana: Steve Bullock

    Nebraska: Bob Kerrey

    Nevada: Catherine Mastro

    New Hampshire: Maggie Hassan

    New Jersey: Cory Booker

    New Mexico: Martin Heinrich

    New York: Andrew Cuomo

    North Carolina: Kay Hagan

    North Dakota: Earl Pomeroy

    Ohio: Marcia Fudge

    Oklahoma: Brad Carson

    Oregon: Jeff Merkley

    Pennsylvania: Bob Casey, Jr.

    Rhode: Island: Sheldon Whitehouse

    South Carolina: Jim Hodges

    South Dakota: Stephanie Sandlin

    Tennessee: Jim Cooper

    Texas: Joaquin Castro

    Utah: Jim Matheson

    Vermont: Howard Dean

    Virginia: Tim Kaine

    Washington: Patty Murray

    West Virginia: Joe Manchin

    Wisconsin: Russ Feingold

    Wyoming: Dave Freudenthal
     
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    Alabama: Doug Jones

    Though Doug Jones just got to the Senate in 2017 he is neither young nor inexperienced. He 'll be 66 and was a US attorney from 1997-2001. His victory over Judge Roy Moore made him a celebrity in the Democratic Party but in 2020 he'll have a very hard time winning a full term, so maybe he can escape to the Presidency. If he can find any life at all outside the south he should be a contender. Otherwise he probably loses his Senate seat and is never seen again.

    Alaska: Mark Begich

    Except for Mike Gravel who turns 90 in 2020 Mark Begich is the only Democrat in the state worthy of a run for the top. His victory over Ted Stevens in 2008 gave him a single term in the Senate. He's running for Governor now and-win or lose-is Alaska's best representative. People in Alaska are different and have a bad reputation. He can at least shake that off by talking sense. A man like him can gain strength in unexpected places. At 58 he'll be the right age and with no baggage.

    Arizona: Ann Kirkpatrick

    Ann Kirkpatrick turns 70 in 2020, but Democrats are thinking old and that's not the worst. At present she's running for a House seat and might lose. Either way, every house race in her state is suspenseful. Running for President and dumping her seat to get it would show commitment. Otherwise she joins the list of people who run for President when they can't win anything at home. She can concentrate her efforts on Nevada and an early primary in California and that could keep her in the race for the duration.

    Arkansas: Mike Ross

    The Clintons are so evil they poisoned Arkansas from the Democratic Party. The best Democrat the state has to offer right now is former Congressman Mike Ross. At 59 he's the right age and represents a new kind of southern Democrat. He has a lot of ground to make up, but might be able to reach a new kind of voter.

    California: Kamala Harris

    Kamala Harris of California looks more like a movie star than a politician. She has a Tamil Indian mother and Jamaican father. Just looking at her in 15 debates will be worth a good rating. At 56 she is the right age and as a former California Attorney General she knows who to arrest and who to release. An expert on voter fraud she can win without many votes and California's early primary might put her in the lead. The men in California are of no value so the first term Senator is the best the state has to offer. With nothing to do in the Senate she has plenty of spare time to visit all corners of the country. The Democratic Party has gone effeminate but bitchy. It's time for beauty and class.

    Colorado: Diana DeGette

    The closest Colorado ever came to the Presidency was Gary Hart. He was ahead of his time. He cheated before adultery became a sacrament. He's still alive but 84 is a little too old to run with credibility. Senator Bennett was born in India. It's legal for him to run but this is not the time for it. Congresswoman Diana DeGette will be 63 in 2020. finishing 24 years in the House. It's time to try to move up or move out. A woman with no baggage, she'll be hard to run a negative campaign against. With the snow on their mountains the core of the state's economy she has a stake in global warming even the President can't deny.
     
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    Connecticutt: Daniel Malloy

    The greatest statesmen in Connecticutt history died about 200 years ago. Among the sad lot the best the Democrats have in that state is Governor Daniel Malloy. He's leaving office this year hated by his people, so he's a natural for President. Christopher Dodd got nowhere in 2008 and ended a great career in 2010. He's 78 and really shouldn't try. All the country will know about Malloy is that he served 2 terms as Governor and 4 terms as Mayor of Stamford. That sounds like a great career and at 65 he'll be ready to retire to the easier job as President.

    Delaware: Joe Biden

    Delaware is equally pathetic. Though the state has enough Democrats the best, for the tenth Presidential race in a row is Joe Biden. He's 78, so what does he have to lose? With his soft demeanor he won't exhaust himself campaigning. If his voice fails, that's an improvement. He's got high approval rating and no ill will.

    Florida: Bill Nelson

    Whether Bill Nelson earns a fourth term in the Senate this year or not he is the most famous Democrat from the crucial swing state. He'll be 78 too but if he's in the Senate he's committed to serving the country through 2024 so he might as well try.

    Georgia: Cynthia McKinney

    Good Democrats are scarce in Georgia but the stigma of Jimmy Carter has to fade away sometime. I searched hard through that state's Democrats and discovered that Cynthia McKinney, 65, will be their best choice to represent the state. She ran for President in 2008 for the Green Party, She tried to impeach W., Cheney and Condi Rice. Incoherent babble goes a long way these days and she won't shy away from the most poignant comments.

    Hawaii: Brian Schatz

    Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii is only 48. He'll be one of the younger candidates but with 22 years of experience and 8 years in the Senate his credentials compare to most. If he can reach beyond his state to other types of Democrats he has a chance. No one doubts he was born in Michigan.

    Idaho: Larry LaRocco

    The most recent Democratic Governor of Idaho died of old age a couple years ago. That makes Larry LaRocco, at 74, 26 years out of office, the best they have to offer. He needs to remind the Democratic Party that Idaho still exists.
     
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    Illinois: Arne Duncan

    I agonized a long time about Illinois. The state is full of Democratic politicians. Some are or recently were in prison. Oprah Winfrey is from Illinois. She's too nice to be President. Can you picture her at a summit with Kim jung-Un? Rahm Emanuel can promise to do for the country what he did for Chicago: let about a million of us per year get murdered with no arrests. Michelle Obama knows her services are best directed elsewhere. I was about to defer to Hillary, then I remembered Arne Duncan and found out he's from Illinois too. The former Education Secretary has none of the baggage other Obama staff members have and those good looks will make people think they're voting for that motivation speaker or that famous minister.

    Indiana: Evan Bayh

    I've been wishing Evan Bayh would run since 2004. The former Indiana Senator has been out of office for awhile, so he's untainted by the terrible rhetoric and sins of the Democrats in Congress. He should announce early, so his beloved father Birch Bayh (distant challenger in 76) can die happy.

    Iowa: Tom Vilsack

    The only Iowan to seriously try to be President was Tom Harkin in 1992. He won Iowa because no one else tried. That's not an option anymore. The Iowa winner becomes at least a co-front runner and can't consider giving up before super Tuesday. He was a 2-term Governor then Secretary of Agriculture. The biggest strike against Hillary is that she made no effort to associate herself with the Obama administration (like the serpent who made no effort to associate himself with events in the Garden of Eden). Vilsack stayed all 8 years with Obama and no one said he ruined any of our cash crops. He'll be 70, making his last campaign. Against Duncan he'll be at a disadvantage but at least he can make it clear he is not ashamed.

    Kansas: Kathleen Sebellius

    Democrats are scarce in Kansas so there must be something special about this former Governor and Secretary of Health and Human Services. If Obamacare is really worth saving the person most responsible for making it a workable plan should be the one to champion its retention throughout the campaign. She can take a bus into Iowa daily and be home for dinner in Kansas. Even at 72 most people can handle that. Iowa goes to the candidate who shakes the most hands so she may start in first place.
     
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    Kentucky: Allison Grimes

    There was no reason really to think that Mitch McConnell could lose a bid for a fifth term in the Senate. Everyone knew that, so Allison Lundergren-Grimes went for it and lost with numbers similar to the other people he defeated over the years. She should regather that strength and make a try for the top.

    Louisiana: John Bel Edwards

    A Democratic Governor in a red state is something rare. John Bel Edwards of Louisiana obviously has something special and he's the best Democrat from that state to show us what it is. He's guaranteed to do better than Bobby Jindal. All he has to do is stay in the race past Iowa.

    Maine: John Baldacci

    When John Baldacci was born in 1955 Maine was a red state. He made the Democratic Party strong there and now it's leaning to the left. Most people have forgotten Edmund Muskie and what a treasure he was. Baldacci speaks best for the current generation of Maineiacks. Since the party is now full of maniacs, voting for Baldacci is natural. With daily visits to New Hampshire he might be the leader after 2 states and sometimes the leader after 2 states never falls behind.

    Maryland: Martin O'Malley

    Hopefully sensible Democrats in Iowa realize now how they poisoned the party with their choice in 2016. They needed to send the message that a mild-mannered, middle-aged Democrat is the best choice of the 3 they had. In a big crowd he might not do much better but he deserves a fair look this time.

    Massachusetts: Deval Patrick

    There are many noteworthy Democrats in Massachusetts. I love Ed Markey but he missed his chance. Elizabeth Warren will be a disaster as the nominee. This is not the right time to find another Kennedy. The best choice is Obama's friend Deval Patrick. Obama took his slogan and changed one word. This man has 8 years as Governor behind him. He's younger and blacker. He's the man in 2020.

    Michigan: Jennifer Granholm

    National exposure on tv is important in a crowded field, so Michigan's best choice is Jennifer Granholm, CNN contributor. She'll have to quit that job to run, but it gives her more visibility than her 2 terms as Governor. Just 61 despite a long career she has many things to offer, especially a swing state Democrats desperately need.

    Minnesota: Mark Dayton

    Retiring Governor Mark Dayton of Minnesota is the best the state has to offer unless Walter Mondale feels like trying again at 92. Hell be 73 that year, so he saw the state go blue, now purple. He knows how to cope with all environments. Being from the coldest state on the continent makes him uniquely qualified to tell us whether climate change really is a problem, and how to use it to our advantage either way.

    Mississippi: Ronnie Musgrove

    Mississippi is lost as a red state for a long time to come, so the best representative they can give in 2020 is Ronnie Musgrove, Governor from 2000 to 2004, when it was still a purple state. He'll be 64 in 2020, younger than many on this list. His southern charm could go a long way in the primaries and the general election.
     
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    Missouri: Claire McCaskill

    Win or lose in her bid for another Senate term, Missouri's best hope-now that Richard Gephardt is 74 and almost forgotten-is Senator Claire McCaskill. Missouri remains a swing state only because she makes the Democratic Party look palatable. Her legacy is strong and this is her chance to show the party what middle America really has to offer.

    Montana: Steve Bullock

    While Montana's Jon Tester is fighting for his life for another term in the Senate, the Democrats have another man in that state who has won the hearts of a very different kind of Democrat and many Republicans.

    Nebraska: Bob Kerrey

    There are so few Democrats left in Nebraska that former Senator Bob Kerrey at 77 is the best they can do. He won a few places in the 92 race but back then they could ignore that. He was in Vietnam but not John Kerry. Only one of them could run at a time, so after he missed his chance he had to take a back seat. With John Kerry happily retired, this man can appear fresh with any good feelings from the other guy in his favor.

    Nevada: Catherine Mastro

    Nevada's first term Senator Catherine Mastro has done nothing, so running for President in 2020 qualifies as the something that will give her a long Senate career. With Nevada voting early she might pick up a win before super Tuesday. If not, she drops out and becomes a famous Senator like the man she replaced. Otherwise she might lose the next time and never be seen again.

    New Hampshire: Maggie Hassan

    Any candidate from New Hampshire has a huge advantage in the primaries, but the state has been so volatile no one there has developed the kind of career worthy of Presidential consideration. It would be terrible to be from New Hampshire and lose your own primary. Maggie Hassan knows how to cheat and that is the most valuable thing Democrats can use in 2020. She won't have to cheat to win her own primary. If she can find any life down south, she might win.

    New Jersey: Cory Booker

    Everyone has fallen in love with Cory Booker. The Democrats see him as their black knight in shining armor. He really is just another pretty face. In that blue state winning the next election is too easy but can he win the hearts of Americans coast to coast? 2020 is the year to find out.

    New Mexico: Martin Heinrich

    Win or lose, Heinrich is a Democratic Senator in a swing state that deals with illegal immigrants en masse. Governor Richardson didn't try hard enough in 2008, so Heinrch is a better choice.

    New York: Andrew Cuomo

    Governor Cuomo, like his father, chickened out in 2016. That would have been a fight for his life. With lots of candidates he might have the courage to try in 2020 but I don't like his chances. Like Ted Kennedy in 1980 one feeble effort looks better to most than never trying.

    North Carolina: Kay Hagan

    Kay Hagan is only 67 in 2020 and served only one term in the US Senate, but at the moment she's the best the state has to offer a devastated party.

    North Dakota: Earl Pomeroy

    North Dakota has only one Congressional seat., so being elected to the House repeatedly is as good as being elected Senator. Earl Pomeroy was in the House from 1993-2011. At 68 he might not win, but there's something about him that won that red state over and over again. Democrats need to learn how he did that.

    Ohio: Marcia Fudge

    Marcia Fudge is an African American who is now Chairperson of the Democratic Party. Her years as Congresswoman in Ohio don't make the best credentials from the state's Democrats, but the look on other candidate's faces-maybe the President's-when they say her name will open any you wish to charges of racism. If they start with 50 candidates that alone might trim the herd to single digits.

    Oklahoma: Brad Carson

    Democrats are scarce in Oklahoma and Brad Carson, former Democratic Congressman, Iraq War veteran and holder of 2 jobs you never heard of in the Obama administration is the state's best hope in 2020. He's only going to be 53, and his military credentials will reach out to a group the Democrats have ignored to their own hurt too many times. He could go a long way and has more energy than most on this list.

    Oregon: Jeff Merkley

    Jeff Merkley was the only US Senator to endorse Bernie Sanders in 2016. That makes him the bravest man in the USA. He needs to run.

    Pennsylvania: Bob Casey, Jr.

    I'm sure Bob Casey is going to be reelected as Senator and as soon as he wins he should announce for President. The Casey family has to take its next step and he's the one to do it. Pennsylvania has not produced a President since the James Buchanan debacle. Those who made some effort have embarrassed the state. He needs to run a clean, simple campaign and it could go far.

    Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse

    With that name, the Senator has to run. Time flies. He'll be too old in 2024. Governor Raimondo and former Governor Lincoln Chaffee are prospects too but Whitehouse is the best choice.

    South Carolina: Jim Hodges

    Jim Hodges was Governor of South Carolina from 1999-2003. Since then he wisely has found something else to do so he takes a good winning percentage into the 2020 race. Just 64, he's not too old like many on this list. With his state voting before super Tuesday and many southern states very early in the race he could take the nomination.

    South Dakota: Stephanie Sandlin

    Stephanie Sandlin of South Dakota needs to be in this race to tongue-twist the reporters. She turns 50 in 2020 and she's been out of office for 10 years by then but someone from that state needs to run and this fresh face will make such a contrast in the lineup that she could win some states. It's a short trip to Iowa so she can do more there than anyone and that often works.

    Tennessee: Jim Cooper

    Jim Cooper will be in his 15th term in the House of Representatives from Tennessee. He took the state from blue to red and survived the experience. There has to be a reason and maybe he can explain it before they chase him out of the race.

    Texas: Joaquin Castro

    The Democratic Party is getting closer and closer to Communist so they might as well go all the way and try to make a Castro their leader. Some will say it's one election too early but there are 2 of them and we don't want another senile President too soon. Joaquin is the better choice this time. If he doesn't get too far his brother can try next time.

    Utah: Jim Matheson

    For a Democrat to serve 7 terms in the US House of Representatives in Utah, he has to have qualities most Democrats know nothing about. Jim Matheson turns 60 in 2020 and can explain what those qualities are. Maybe he can even get some votes. Don't forget, with no real Republican race many GOP voters can vote for Democrats. Wouldn't they pick him as the one to boost. If they do, he can make them regret it.

    Vermont: Howard Dean

    Bernie Sanders is too old and not really a Democrat. Howard Dean is still a real Democrat. He rigged the primaries for Hillary and he can rig them for himself in 2020. That roar wasn't so bad. If he announces soon enough Sanders can't challenge him. He'll have to opt for a third party campaign in the general and that's where he belongs. Dean deserves another chance in a big field.

    Virginia: Tim Kaine

    VP loser Tim Kaine insists he won't be running. That's a courtesy to Hillary, but as soon as she announces she won't be in the race he can join and she might endorse him. If she doesn't he still starts far ahead of most of these and the right age to do a good job. He does represent a crucial swing state and has all the tools to be a good President.
     
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    Washington: Patty Murray

    If Democrats really needed to nominate a woman in 2016 it should have been Patty Murray of Washington state. She'll be 68 in 2020 and this is her last chance. She has to try now-better late than never.

    West Virginia: Joe Manchin

    Senator and former Governor Joe Manchin is getting lonelier and lonelier at Democratic gatherings in West Virginia. He's over 70 and might as well run for President. He's much more conservative than almost any Democratic politician, so putting him on the ballot even in the first 4 states will reveal whether the party still has a core of conservatives. If there's no contest on the Republican side there's no telling how many conservatives in Iowa or South Carolina might turn Democrat to vote for him. He could have a chance if he starts soon and runs hard.

    Wisconsin: Russ Feingold

    When Russ Feingold was unseated after 3 terms as Senator from Wisconsin in 2010 his concession speech made someone suggest he was going to challenge Obama for the 2012 nomination. Some people will say anything. Instead he waited 6 years, trued to regain his old seat and lost. With no hope of winning anything in Wisconsin he might as well try for President.

    Wyoming: Dave Freudenthal

    Democrats are scarce in Wyoming, so the most successful one this century is former Governor Dave Freudenthal. He'll be 70 in 2020 and a remote longshot, but he needs to represent the state. Maybe he can rope a few hundred delegates and impact the election.
     
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    Your substantive and well-thought-out post was looking pretty lonely so I though I'd leave a comment. Thanks for your analysis of each candidate. That must have taken you some time to research. I'm jealous of the amount of free time you seem to have. I noticed several inaccuracies and falsehoods before I realized you were going for humor. That's always a plus in my book. Also, thank you for eschewing rank partisanship and cheap ad hominem attack which have become all too common on this site.

    I'm wondering, though, if celebrity candidates from each state might the way to go. It worked for Donald Trump, after all. Who's to say this isn't the harbinger of a new political trend? It would be easy to find candidates. Michael Moore is the obvious choice from Michigan, and no one but Stephen King could possibly loft the celebrity banner from Maine with more panache. California has numerous choices, from George Clooney to Warren Beatty to Susan Sarandon (wait, does she live in Cali or did she move to France after the 2016 election?). My favorite might be Amber Tamblyn, one of the leading voices in the #Me Too movement. She is a poet who is passionate about social justice and she has the added bonus of having outed James Woods as a skeevy perv. She can run from her birth state of California or her more recent adopted state of New York. Yeah, I think Amber's my choice. I would quit my job to work on her campaign. She'll be 37 in 2020, so past the legal age required. She also has political experience, having spoken at the 2004 DNC convention.

    I wish I had time to make my celebrity choices from all 50 states, but alas, lunchtime is approaching and that has to take priority. But I will monitor this thread eagerly for more cogent analysis that I am certain is forthcoming. Keep up the good work, Phil!
     
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    Its looking like its going to be perverted Joe Biden as their top runner.
     
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    Thats a loy of corruption you got going on.
     
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    I'll gladly accept a job offer that leaves me less time, especially if it uses my mental agility. I'm curious what facts you think I got wrong (Cecil Andrus' cause of death, number of Elvis sightings in Nebraska). Maybe you'd like to argue opinions (great statesmen of Connecticutt, Milton Schaap's campaign brilliance).
     
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    This>>

    You are suggesting she commits voter fraud, or am I mistaken?
     
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    Look elsewhere. She was Attorney General of California.
    The way they register persons in California opens itself to suspicious activity.
    Many persons casually suggest that fraud occurs regularly in that state.
    There probably were allegations during her tenure, and she had to look at the laws to authorize the investigations.
    If somehow there were no complaints she should have learned the laws anyway as a California Attorney General.
    She serves on the committee that held hearings about the alleged tampering with the 2016 election and asked the kind of questions one would ask if it were being taught.
    Therefore all I concluded was that if she ever needs to win an election by fraud, she knows how better than most.
    If you claim she is not an expert I think you're accusing her of being quite dumb.
     
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    What suspicious activity? Trying to make sure everyone who is entitled to vote gets a chance to is honoring the constitution and the many people who gave up their lives or livelihoods to fight for our freedoms. If you have any actual evidence of voter fraud in California (and I do mean REAL evidence) by all means share it here. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke out your ass.
     
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    Do you believe everything people casually suggest to you? You sound like a certain orange-faced sexual assaulter ("Many people are saying...." "I got it off the internet. It's not my fault if it's wrong"). Seriously?

    The rest of your reply is self-serving drivel designed to attempt to make your previous post make sense. You failed miserably. You have no actual evidence of voter fraud or cover-ups of said fraud.

    When I posted here, I had forgotten about your hateful thread concerning Senate predictions. You are an anti-Semite and misogynist and probably homophobic, too, I wouldn't be surprised.

    Can I take back my "like" for this thread?
     
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    While researching the list of House members defeated or replaced this year I stumbled across the first "serious" Democratic candidate for President. It's Congressman John Delaney of Maryland's sixth district. He's leaving the House this year to show his commitment to the race. They really all should since it's best to have Congressmen working for the public. When several Senators run at the same time it demonstrates how superfluous the job is for most of them and their lack of value and respect for the office. He was born in 1963 and defeated an old Republican (86 at the time) after the Democratic legislature gerrymandered the district. That elder abuse might help if he faces a bunch of old geezers, or hurt if anyone takes that personally. Obviously he could have stayed in Congress a long time with token opposition, but since he has no experience winning a tough election he'll need a lot of help if he wins the nomination. A rich businessman, he'll have no trouble amassing a second fortune should he face an early defeat. This will put pressure on O'Malley because it's bad etiquette to have 2 candidates from the same state. He might have a personal grudge.
     
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    My pick for Massachusetts Deval Patrick has just announced he will not run. The state traditionally has a representative in the race so someone is highly likely to announce. The state has lots of losers in our era: Romney, Romney, Kerry, Tsongas, Dukakis, Ted Kennedy, Shriver, Robert Kennedy, Lodge. Most likely they'll defer to Elizabeth Warren. Her chance of winning the nomination is not great. She can't outbitch Hillary, has no legislative credentials and no real accomplishments as a consumer advocate. Her husband is a legal history professor and will add no substance to her campaign. The last election proves she has no support outside the Democratic Party in her home state. Still Massachusetts never puts its best prospect on the list, just someone.
     
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    2016: Democrats outraged that a celebrity won the White House
    2020: Democrats run a celebrity

    Yea, that would make sense. I've never known a Democrat who wasn't a hypocrite
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless the Democratic National Committee has changed their way of doing business and the DNC has cleaned house and is no longer a corrupt banana republic political organization, it's the DNC who decides who will win the Democratic Presidential nomination.

    But as long as CNN, N.Y. Times and other news organizations of the MSM are in collusion with the DNC, it will be the DNC who decides who they will run for President not the voters.

    If the Republican National Committee were just half as corrupt as the DNC, it would be President Jeb Bush today.
     
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    2020: Another Democrat Decides Not To Run Against Trump.....

    Let’s not kid ourselves, folks. The 2020 Democratic field is going to be big, but there are two people that are no longer running. Anti-Trump lawyer Michael Avenatti, who continues to be the Left’s professional clown, opted not to run in an announcement released yesterday, despite pounding his chest about how he would win if he ran in 2020. So, we’ll chalk that as a win for Trump. Truth be told, Avenatti would have been thrashed, he had no national constituency, and would have embarrassed the Democratic Party immensely. It’s also partially why I wanted him to run. It would have been amazing watching Avenatti pick fights with the rest of the 2020 field. Well, that field is also less one Democrat: former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. He’s out too (via NYT):

    Hmmm…could it be that Patrick couldn’t beat Trump. That might be it, as with the rest of the 2020 field......snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/12/05/deval-patrick-n2537028


    2 down.....bout 20 more to go.
     
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    Jennifer Granholm (your Michigan person) was born Canada and ineligible to run for U.S. President.

    If she had been born in the USA she would be a Top-Tier candidate.
     
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    What about Ted Cruz
    Ted-Cruz-Canada.jpg

    Moi :oldman: says wherever the after birth went ploop on the floor
    is where one is born.
     
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    Things are happening fast and exploratory committees are not candidacies. but so far 7 names are in circulation. We've got the wrong Marylander, the wrong Texan, the wrong Hawaiian, the wrong Minnesotan, the wrong New Yorker and 2 wrong Massachusettians.
    The right people, some for the third or fourth time, are standing back for fear of the Clintons. By the time the last glimmer of expectation Hillary will join the race is gone it will be too late for a new candidate to emerge.
    It may also be that some fear not the Clintons this time but the President himself. The reason we gave 3 clunkers in a row 2 terms is because potential a-list opponents stayed out of the race hoping for an easier foe.
    If they're such cowards, the Presidential credentials my 50 picks have lack the leadership and boldness a President needs.
     
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    California: Kamala Harris

    Kamala Harris of California looks more like a movie star than a politician. She has a Tamil Indian mother and Jamaican father. Just looking at her in 15 debates will be worth a good rating. At 56 she is the right age and as a former California Attorney General she knows who to arrest and who to release. An expert on voter fraud she can win without many votes and California's early primary might put her in the lead. The men in California are of no value so the first term Senator is the best the state has to offer. With nothing to do in the Senate she has plenty of spare time to visit all corners of the country. The Democratic Party has gone effeminate but bitchy. It's time for beauty and class.

    She's the first from my list to announce and will start as the frontrunner among announced candidates.
    By bypassing the exploratory stage she joins only Delaney and Julian Castro officially. Delaney's name will now be seldom spoken and his face rarely seen.
    Gillibrand and Warren can now direct their exploratory committees to assess their chances against Harris. She's hoping both will see themselves at a deficit and quietly withdraw. Should Harris arrive at the primaries as the only female on the ballot her candidacy may define the limits to what a woman can get in a freely disputed race.
    She has no natural constituency in Iowa or New Hampshire, but if southern blacks accept her as one of them first place in South Carolina is attainable. Castro might be her biggest threat in Nevada, even if they're battling for second behind a white man.
    No one will complain if she drags to the limit in second or third place. A teary goodbye after an early letdown will also sweeten her long-term credentials.
    If nothing develops, just being in the race briefly gives her a head start in her 2022 Senate run. She'll never have an easy race in the jungle primary system in that state.
     
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    Way too early to speculate on the race (especially in places like SC and NV) without knowing exactly who is in and who is out.

    Booker, for example, could help carve up the vote in SC.

    Sanders, were he to run, would have a built-in "loyalist" constituency that would suck wind from other "Progessives", etc.

    Just really hard to say (right now) with so many potential candidates (Biden, Beto, Booker, Brown, Kobuchar, Sanders, Etc.) who haven't announced their intentions.
     

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