2018 Midterms: what have we learned

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    The border is protected competently.

    The Dems will pass a good budget, Revax, and the Senate and Trump will reject it.

    Then We the Peopl will reject Trump in 2020.
     
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    The border is protected competently?

    How many illegal aliens are currently in the United States?

    lol this is one of the weakest posts I've ever seen
     
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    Again, you obviously don't hold your side to standards, maybe that cause you have none?
     
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    Attack poodle nonsense....you disqualify yourself from any rational discussion of events....good for you...
     
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    There were still judges that made slavery legal. The big government came from the monarch that gave the power to the judges in the colonies. Or do you think a monarch is not a "big government" ideology?
     
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    Well, if you don't want to actually debate and keep throwing ad hominem attacks, guess we are done.
     
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    Of course, slavery continued for nearly a century after Independence...
     
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    That wasn't ad hom, it was a direct comment on your attack. It waswimootent screeching. Please don't use terms incorrectly, you discredit yourself to do so.

    And no, i have no desire to debate your whataboutism. Feel free to open investigation # 345,879 into Hillary. But you embarrass yourself to then whine about investigations into the politicians you support. So you have already lost that debate.
     
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    The poor can't build without finances from the rich guy. Once the word is done, the workers move on while the investor, who could have spent everything on the building, is left with something that MUST succeed or he loses. Nothing is lost of the workers, they got paid for their time and service according to an agreement set out before work started.
     
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    The owner can get workers anyplace, he doesn't need you, you need him. Show me one poor guy building a business and hiring people.
     
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    Yes, thanks to big government democrats like Andrew Jackson. Democrats, who wanted the democracy of the many out voting the minority. Democrats, who dehumanized their slaves into property and used the courts to retrieve any slave who ran away.
     
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    Utter nonsense.
     
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    No, utter nonsense. It continued because very many Bible thumping slave owners wanted it to Continue. Jackson has zero political power without a wave of such people at his back, similar to how Trump would be selling shamwows on late night cable without the financial support of Russia and the political support of his base.
     
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    Bahaha, like they did between 2006-2010? Do you think the GOP senate will not vote on a budget like Harry Reid did for 4 years? You think the GOP will take the page out of the lefts playbook?
     
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    Yeah, keep blaming Christians for slavery, even though its been around since the beginning of time. And it was ended in America because of other Christians. And the founders who opposed slavery were also Christian. Just convenient that you ignore the fact that the slave owners were democrats.
     
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    I didn't blame Christians for slavery in general, I implied that people used religion to keep it on life support in the United States. And that is a fact. I am immune to these conman tricks you employ.
     
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    Ah yes, saying everyone should be held to the same standard is "whining about investigations of the politicians I like" and "whataboutism".
     
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    There are two sides to the US slavery problem. First, the United States accepting slaves. Second, African nations bargaining with the US to give us slaves in return.

    It's not just a US problem that caused slavery. Many African leaders benefited from it.
     
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    And they used it to fight slavery, why do you ignore that?
     
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    Monarchy is big government in terms of the Mechantilist economics of the day. It was also very Conservative, but it is anachronistic to compare government in the 21st Century to that of the early modern period. Slaves are property so of course the government had to be involved, but only in a legalizing sense in order to turn human beings into Capital. The actual institution was run by private owners of slaves and enforced by civilian militias.
     
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    Wonder if those African's were Christians?
     
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    In lieu of any rational discussion of one event, or even to prevent such?

    Yes, that is precisely what it is and precisely your intent. You might want to shield your eyes...discussion of these events untainted by your thin rhetoric is about to ensue...
     
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    Nonsense? A business can go anywhere to get help. There are over a billion people around the world looking for work. Many businesses can automate and run most of the factory. If a business isn't there, what do you do? You need it, because there isn't nearly enough of them to employ everyone. They don't need you, they can go anywhere and get people like you any time they want.
     
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    No doubt. But to say it enjoyed a long life here in our country because of a few politicians is just not honest.
     
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    And how did the Rich guy get Rich? By taking all the profits from the worker's surplus production.
     
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