TRUMP CRIES FRAUD AS A DEMOCRAT PULLS AHEAD IN ARIZONA

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  1. Mamasaid

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    Actually, that is precisely what they do. The only major contribution of the fed to curriculum is common core, which was a republican measure. You have no idea what you are talking about...find someone else to pester....
     
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    And how does the person placing the call know the person they are calling is actually the voter?

    If a ballot is in question because signatures don't match, can't be deciphered accurately enough, the vote should be voided. The voter should be notified so they can correct the situation the next time.
     
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    Actually the Superintendent and Principals run the public schools.


    Like I said when you get back in touch with reality then come and see me.
     
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    if this is true, that huge news, where did you see that? i ask because that wouldn't make any sense, can't be legal either, how would they know whom answered the phone?
     
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    It sounds like he/she is repeating some ridiculous RW Tinfoil Hat stuff they saw at a RW Trash Blog.
     
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    No, they implement the curricula dictated to them. You seem to have lost track of what we were talking about already.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Throwing a persons ballot out should be a last resort. There is nothing more disgusting than disenfranchising voters on bullshit technicalities. However that type of thing has become one of the normal tactics used by the scummy Republican Party for decades now.
     
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    That's what they are doing. It's a concept they refer to as "curing" a questionable ballot.

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/arizona-counties-next-wednesday-cure-main-ballots-senate-race

    The agreement comes after Republicans sought to get a court to stop Maricopa and Pima counties from allowing the mail-in ballots there to be fixed after the polls closed Tuesday. ​
     
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    you mean like that vanity fair rag link in the op!
     
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    *That you didn't read a word of....
     
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    The voter disenfranchised themselves by screwing up their ballot. I want every vote to count. Let the chips fall where they must. But if their signature is so screwed up it can't be confirmed to be the same person, that's on the voter.

    The signature is the only means of confirming the person who cast the vote is actually the same person. If that can't be determined, it's done. Phoning after the polls are closed potentially perverts the process.

    I don't want human interpretation to be involved. Either the vote is clean, or it doesn't count. That requires a level of responsibility placed on the voter.

    Any other approach is open to fraud and manipulation, as has already surfaced in Arizona and in Broward and possibly other counties in Florida.

    It's ridiculous.
     
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    i read that link and the 'associated press' article linked in the 'rollcall' article, neither mentioned verify by phone, rather that the 'cure' is to reach out to them in order to give them a chance to verify their signature. i would think that meant, contact them to have them come in and re-sign, saying yea/nay on the sigs... or perhaps showing up at their residence and asking for a signed sworn statement that it is their sig.

    anywho, this would only be for the mailed in ballots, otherwise they'd have no clue whom the ballots belong to.

    link from within the 'rollcall' link:
    https://apnews.com/18679ae12bbe4b2d9dbe93fcaf00e757
     
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    Superintendents report to City government who then reports to the state. The principals run the schools. Just the way it is. Stick with the facts.

    Oh wait.....I forgot, that is a leftist bane.
     
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    i copy title and do my own search and then read the articles from reliable sources, not a fashion rag
     
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    And some corrupt political hack county official gets to throw this ballots out Willy nilly....Great system. Our whole voting system needs to be completely overhauled. As it stands now, all anyone has to do to rig national elections is to buy a few key county whores in key districts in key states. It is time for major change.
     
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    Might keep in mind that, this sort of corruption is a two way street!
     
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    No doubt. That’s why we need to take elections out of the hands of political operatives. The present system is corrupt as hell. Letting elected county political hacks count votes is ridiculous. In Georgia an elected state political hack was in charge of counting the votes in his own election. Stalin once said: It matters not who votes, it only matters who COUNTS the votes.

    In this day and age it would be easy to enact a system in which every voter would have a paper receipt recording their vote like one you get from an ATM recording a deposit or withdrawal which could be easily crosschecked with the official vote count.
     
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    There is this:

    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local...-counties-continue-ballot-cures-until-nov-14/

    Emphasis added:

    Pima County Recorder F. Ann Rodriguez said her office's "Problem Ballot Team" will be available 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. all weekend and through Wednesday to help voters verify their ballots. Voters who have been contacted by the Recorder's Office here can call back at 520-724-4330 to make sure their ballots are tabulated.
    Certainly it doesn't take much thought to see how this kind of process can be perverted.

    If a ballot is so screwed up it needs the attention of a Problem Ballot Team, the vote should be voided. The voter should be contacted, and they should be informed of why and how it can be avoided in the future.
     
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    Perfect! :applause:
     
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    And the state sets the curricula, save for the republican federal intervention of about 10 years ago.

    Thank you. You are wrong, and i am right.

    Moving on...
     
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    You are a pretty smart guy sometimes Butter.
     
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    ok, but it isn't clear on what that 'verification method' is... possibly call back to make an appointment, who knows, it's vague... until we see/hear an actual statement from an official involved that explains exactly what that process is...
     
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    Why are you stretching so far? Come on.

    The statement came from the Pima County Recorder. Is that official enough for you?

    "Pima County Recorder F. Ann Rodriguez said her office's "Problem Ballot Team...."​
     
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    You make no friends talking like that man! Still plenty of time to edit it lolol
     
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    I disagree with you and agree with the reasonable attempt by the recorder to verify votes rather than simply throw them out.
     

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