Military Spending Is Already Bankrupting America

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I am not unaware also that a good deal of our military spending IS actually infrastructure spending. Most of our rocketry still remains military, as does our satellite network. Just one thing, drones, developed mainly for the military, are now revolutionising our lives, as is and has been GPS. Hell, computers themselves are a mainstream application of military technology

    We need to take the same viewpoint to healthcare spending that we take to military spending Think of all the wonderful things that could come about from actually TRYING to make people's lives longer, better and more pleasant rather than killing people and destroying things.
     
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    It seems blindly evident that you've ingested rhetorical concepts and terms such as freedom, justice, liberty et al., without actually understanding or knowing the reality of how the US is run -- and has been run for many decades.

    Forgive me for my impatience but you'll have to find someone else to break through your dogma fence and attempt to educate you about reality. Whoever that may be the first task is going to be damn hard work.

    I'm done here.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If only, eh??
     
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    The US might have some financial problems, but those are certainly not due to military spending. This from Wall Street Journal:
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-america-is-going-broke-1519254875

    Yes, we all know how crucially important is for people in certain circles to convince the American public to put pressure on their government in order to stop American involvement on the international arena. Spreading panic about a supposed bankruptcy allegedly due to military spending is one way of achieving this goal. Accuracy is, of course, irrelevant, journalistic ethics be damned. There's a very good reason why UN's Ake Sellstorm has called Mint Press " famous for 1001 Arabian Nights stories".

    Some proof of it would be nice, but since the concept exists since at least Alexander the Great, I won't hold my breath.

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/histor...ctures-and-press-releases/international-order
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, that "someone else" has been Turkey most of the time.

    American bombing notwithstanding, people in that corner of the world looked up to America, are quite fond of Turkey, and are still afraid of Russia. Interesting, isn't it?
     
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    Simple: because otherwise those dictators would've crossed over to America's enemies' side. It's rather important for any country in the world to have some friends and partners, or at least not enemies, so there.

    Ideals and politics don't mix well.
     
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    Exactly. Professor Alfred McCoy predicts the crash could be as soon as 2025.

     
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    Sure ...
    but then the US should not play the hypocritical dumbass and only the evil dictators, which they do not creep into the butt (or vice versa) ... but just shut up, including bad asses like Assad in Syria!

    That makes the US just a totally hypocritical piece of **** whose credibility for democratic values in the world is zero!
     
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    And foreigners wonder why their bitter hate America posts are not universally welcome here
     
  10. Mandelus

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    And then the US are wondering why they face with this and other bad behviour hate outside their borders ...?

    Any useful argument agains the named facts I named?
    Are you denying that the US backed and still backs dictators and hold them in power against their own people?
    Are you denying that the US in reverse play the moral moron at enemy dictators?
     
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    I believe globalism combined with a touch of penis envy in former world powers like france and germany explains most of the attitude euros have

    I dont know exactly what the world will be like post America but it wont be pretty
     
  12. Mandelus

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    Certainly there is no penis envy ... not a spark of it!
    Rather, it is the problem that the US still does not understand that Europeans are not "command receivers of Washington" anymore and have their own interests and views as the US ... and most importantly: they are not willing to subordinate their interests and claims to those of the USA!
    In short, the US does not get and does not want to understand that they have nothing to command and dictate to the Euros anymore, but that if at all there can only exist an equal partnership between both or enmity as an alternative! it is the choice of the US what they want to have!

    Especially you are one of those who beat hard at that time on Germany and the other Euros, because they are not the contractual 2% in the defense!
    Only ... we do not have to do that at the moment, because according to the contract of Wales in 2014 ... the contract was signed by the US too ... we have to do that from 2024 onwards. So what does your dumbass want in the White House again?
    Oh yes ... the US taxpayer pays for that, he says! I laugh myself dead, because nothing, but absolutely nothing can be farther from the truth than this bold and outrageous lie of Trump!

    But that's not the topic here so why do you attack me again ...
    The point is that once again I showed you the general hypocrisy of the United States with clear and unequivocal words ... and you do not like that ... especially because someone from Europe is doing it!
    However, these are irrefutable facts ... whether you like them or not!
     
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    Good Video - very smart guy who has devoted much of his life to study of the topic.
     
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    What world "post America" ... is America going somewhere ?

    And what does the rest of your post have to do with the post you were responding to ?!
     
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    You think that returning money to the rightful owners is a bad idea? In other words, if thieves steal money from you, shouldn't return money?
     
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    Yes. International thieves and crooks seized power over the world.
     
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    Yes, in this case.
     
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    Speaking only for myself, and having served in Uncle Sam's Army, I don't want to castrate the military, I just want the truth to be told about why we are in all these wars on the other side of the globe killing people whose country we have invaded under fraud, and I want ordinary accounting practices, in the sunshine, brought to DoD, Am I a dreamer?
     
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    True

    The topic is AMERICAN military sprnding

    That has nothing to do with bitter euros like you who have no business commenting on this topic
     
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    If globalists have their way America will disappear as a superpower with influence greater than our 6% share of the world population
     
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    Name at least three dictators the U.S. kept in power who did not have substantial support among their own people?

    The Shah of Iran, Pinochet, Samoza all had a lot of support in their countries (Iran, Chile, Nicaraqua). Probably at least near half the populace.

    Very few dictators are able to stay in power any length of time if they do not have substantial amounts of support among their own citizens.
     
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    But you have no position to forbid this and so you have to live with it ...
     
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    The US did support Stalin in WWII who was the most brutal mass murderer in history at the time

    And many US liberals supported Stalin
     
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    I cant forbid you from posting here and we both know it

    Only the gods on Mount Olympus have that power
     
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    Lol ... serously? Pinochet, Shah and Samoza had a lot of support? Sorry ... in which BS fairy tale world are you living please?
    There you have your 3 examples where the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE were against these blood thirty dictators and which had later lost their power!
     

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