Trump Jr.'s 2017 Testimony Conflicts With Cohen's Account Of Russian Talks

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/6721...nflicts-with-cohen-s-account-of-russian-talks

    And now we start to see the rubber hit the proverbial road. There is a reason that this past week has been one of the most important weeks, to date, in terms of the Mueller investigation. Trump submitted written answers, under penalty of perjury, on Tuesday and then Mueller revealed that the knew Manafort and Cohen had both lied. The details or implications of Manafort's lying are not yet known, but Cohen publicly admitted to lying to Congress about the Russia Trump Tower deal. And now, his testimony appears to conflict with the sworn testimony of Don Jr. It also appears as though Trump's lawyers might need lawyers.

    And while Trump may not care that much about Don Jr. or Giuliani, he certainly cares a great deal about Ivanka Trump who is now, reportedly, also in the crosshairs for her involvement in that Russia Trump Tower Deal.

    In these most depressing of times, I find comfort in the fact that Donald Trump's idiotic decision to run for presidency has rightly ruined the lives of 33 truly horrible people and mind you, more indictments are coming. Icing on the cake would be him getting impeached and his kids either ending up in prison or fighting financial crimes/treason charges in courts for the rest of their lives. If this is not a literal illustration of 'opening a can of worms' I don't know what is.
     
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    I thought Cohen's involvement in this was because he allegedly went to Prague to meet some Russkies. What happened to that claim? Down the memory hole?
     
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    Sounds like the dossier got it wrong.
    Good thing it wasn’t sworn testimony to congress!
    How long do you think JR will serve for his lies to congress?
     
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    How so? He was asked he said they ended in 2014, then was ask.... "But not in 2015 or 2016?" Trump Jr. was asked. "Certainly not '16," - Cohen said there was some in June 2016. That's mid-year not the end.
     
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    How long? None at all.

    When do you think Trump is going to be perp walked away from the White House in shackles?
     
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    Of course, Donny Jr. LIED.

    Just like Daddy, and his Little Sister--Ebonker '"Hillary Jr." Drumpf.

    A Whole Family of LIARS.:smfh:

    [​IMG]
     
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    We already know he lied to Congress, why wouldn’t he be charged?
    And trump will not be arrested as president. A bold prediction I know.
     
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    The question is whether the discussions ended before 2015. He responds by saying that the negotiations definitely ended before 2016.
     
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    I wouldn't give up on the dossier yet. :) Things always dribble out.
     
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    And this denied obama his third term exactly how?

    Mueller is supposed to be looking for illegal acts between trump and putin to steal the election from hillary

    If anything this is still not that
     
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    So why did they lie about this publicly and under oath?
     
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    I dont know if they did lie

    But it sure does not look like illegal activity by the russians to steal the election for trump
     
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    Cohen admits he did, which also means Jr and Sr did also
     
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    to be fair to JR, daddy may not have trusted him with this. So it’s possible he thought the deal died back in 14.
     
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    They did definately end before the end of 2016 according to Cohen
     
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    Cohn is an admitted liar

    You have no way of knowing if hes lyong now but odds are good that he is
     
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    Odds are better than he has recordings, documents or phone records.
     
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    In what world is the end of 2016 the same as before 2016?
     
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    Mueller has a much, much broader directive. But proof that multiple members of Trump's campaign organization committed perjury about a massive financial link and leverage against Trump by Russia, one where they planned to give Putin a multi-million dollar penthouse for 1/5 of the market price, during the campaign is definitely part "looking for illegal acts between trump and putin to steal the election from hillary."
     
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    Who knows if they really lied? And what difference does this make with anything. This is a minor inconsequential issue, especially when compared to all the lies Clinton, McCabe, Strzok, and others were caught in.
     
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    Who cares if they colluded! Look how many people Dahmer killed! Lol
    I wonder if JR will try that in court lol
    Think juries like pathetic deflections?
     
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    I want you to go down a hypothetical world with me.

    Let's imagine that Obama was in secret discussions with Iran to build a very large project for which Obama would benefit financially in the leadup to the election. And let's say that Obama publicly denied the existence of these discussions and that Obama very publicly defended Iran's behavior on multiple occasions. And then, let's say that multiple people around Obama told lies - while under oath - about those discussions.

    Still a minor inconsequential issue to you?
     
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    Who lied and what proof do you have?
     
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    Why did you use obama in your example and not the Clinton Foundation?
     
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