a thought about "America is the only country that values gun rights"

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    So has old age
     
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    How many Americans were murdered or committed suicide by car then ?
     
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    How well has such been working out for the nation of France? Have they successfully recovered and moved on from the Charlie Hebdo massacres yet?
     
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    When other nations demonstrate they are more concerned about the well being of those who openly violate the law, than they are the well being of those who abide by the law.
     
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    Interesting. The Bill of Rights was ratified in the late 18th century, and Americans owned and used firearms throughout its history. Your meme talks about "all the wars in history" but then points out that the "slaughter" you bemoan began in 1968.

    Maybe - just MAYBE - the problem isn't the guns.
     
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    That is a lot of dead americans
     
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    Not wanting an easy facility to kill each other (barbarism in other words) would be a start
    You are hundreds of times more likely to be shot dead in the US than be a victim of terrorism in France or indeed anywhere else in Europe
     
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    Maybe its those dumbass victims getting in the way of the 'sacred' bullets thats the problem ? :roll:
     
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    You incarcerate a greater percentage of your population than any other nation on Earth yet despite that have a murder rate many orders of magnitude greater than any other developed nation with the great bulk of those murders involving guns. Locking more people up clearly isn't working its the easy access to guns thats the problem. This is pretty obvious to anyone looking in
     
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    Don't have to

    Already living in paradise

    NRA would love to sell more guns in Australia but the response to that seems to be

    RACK OFF HAIRY LEGS
     
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    A child who has been aborted doesn't make it to math class.

    But to the liberals that's a right which condones murder and must be defended at every turn, whereas using a firearm to protect oneself and ones family is a right that needs to be banned in every way.

    Strange people those liberals.
     
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    Dumb statement, the NRA doesn't sell firearms and the NSSF is the firearm lobby not the NRA, you don't know much about firearms and the U.S. do you?
     
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    I'll put a counter argument to you. America is the only country that so vastly overvalues gun rights that the basic human right of people to exist without fear is often fatally compromised to the tune of 1.5 million needless violent deaths in just the last 50 years :(
     
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    And once again you are incorrect, the right to bear firearms is not overvalued at all, if anything it is undervalued, while non-rights, such as abortion are way overvalued.

    And a large part of this gross error can be blamed squarely on media and the culture of violence they perpetrate, the U.S. does not have a firearm problem, what we do have is an expanding subculture who has been generationally raised on the concept, the solution to any problem is violence, it is revered and promoted by media and those who put too much faith or belief in media, become poisoned by that programming and also fall into believing violence is a acceptable, actually a preferred method to solve ones problems.

    The firearm them becomes the tool to providing that solution, remove firearms and a new tool will take it's place, the only way to solve the problem is to break the chain and demolish the belief that violence is an acceptable method of solving problems and then and only then will the rate of violent crimes fall dramatically.

    Unfortunately too many in this country will not admit we have such a problem, and even fewer are studying and developing methods to solve the problem.
     
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    Nah! It is just the advertising arm of the Armaments industry
     

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