Trump Tells Troops In Iraq He Got Them Their First Pay Raise In 10 Years, Which Isn’t Even Remotely

"Trump Tells Troops In Iraq He Got Them Their First Pay Raise In 10 Years, Which Isn’t Even Remotely True"

"President Trump bragged Wednesday to troops stationed in Iraq that he had secured them a massive pay raise, repeating a false claim he’s made repeatedly on the campaign trail."

"The president also stated — incorrectly — that he had authorized the first military pay increase in a decade."

"You haven’t gotten one in more than 10 years,” Trump said. “More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-mil...ise-statement/

Pinocchio tells one lie on top of another, no matter where he is, and when challenged, cries the media is picking on him.

How does a mother teach a child that lying isn't a good thing today when the President of the country is known for his habitual lying?

Got to be a new low even for Trump lying to soldiers who in the next hour could be putting their lives on the line

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The Washington Post is reporting that Trump has exceeded 7,000 lies and misleading statements since taking office. That Trump lies to everyone about everything isn't even newsworthy anymore.

What I would say is that it's grounds for impeachment and removal from office based upon "conduct unbecoming of the Office of the President" based upon the criteria used in the military for "conduct unbecoming an officer" of the United States military. An officer can be discharged for this conduct and the president, as CIC of the military, should also be held to this same standard of conduct.

 

It’s pathological. People with low self image constantly lie to build the self esteem. How we elected such a person President is beyond me, but it’s a Kardashian World now and SNAFU is the new normal.

 

I wonder how it felt to have Trump stand right in front of you and lie to you in such and obvious and easily checked way.

After all, every soldier in that audience knows exactly when they got their last pay increase, and they know that what Trump said is clearly not even remotely true.

Of course, that was either before or after he said that we were all "suckers" for doing the job these soldiers were sent to do.

I wonder how that went over........

 

Do you think the insanity will stop with Trump? If George Clooney ran for the office, he would get elected. If Oprah ran for the office, she would get elected. If Michelle Obama ran for the office, she would get elected. None of these people are any more qualified than the current President.

Reminds me of Student Council in high school. Simply a popularity contest!

 

Trump is a man of low self-esteem who is subconsciously aware of the fact that he just doesn't measure up to previous presidents. That he includes Obama in that subconscious list is especially galling. Trump is a guy that just doesn't know how to act right in any circumstance. He is a cowardly bull in a china shop. When you finally break enough expensive china, you get evicted from the store.

 

American Idol.

Our culture has reduced itself to taking the position of President of the United Stats and turned it into American Idol.

No longer does the job require any skill or experience. Even Rome fell to their excesses.

 

Interesting concept, but I wonder who has the authority to convene a Courts Martial for the highest ranking officer in the military? It cannot and would not be an impeachment.

 

So basically the military has gotten inflation raises annually since 2010 and Trump most certainly got them the only significant raise since then. For some reason I doubt the military guys are upset they got more than their annual inflation adjustment pay. Hey though keep reminding them that Trump got them their only real raise in 8 years I'm sure their pissed. Theoretically it was 8 years since their decent raise of 3.4% so Trump was wrong.

 

Ok, well I was going to try and "spin" it, but I can't. Was thinking that the paltry 1.5% pay raises Obama pushed for (legal min and worst since Clinton) was less than inflation, and there for not really a raise. But it was pretty much inline with inflation, so the pay raise under Obama kept pace with cost of living. Bush pushed pay raises far above inflation to catch the military up to what it was left out of the raises under Clinton.

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-inflation-rate-history-by-year-and-forecast-3306093
https://www.navycs.com/charts/

 

Pay raises in the military are linked to pay raises in the private sector. By law (although Congress can adjust that). The 2018 raise was 2.4%, not 3.4%.

https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/Basic-Pay/AnnualPayRaise/

But Trump didn't talk about a raise above inflation. Here is what Trump said:

"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'"
'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time," Trump said, repeating the false claim.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/trump-misleads-military-pay-raise-again/index.html

That is just a flat-out lie, to American troops in a combat zone. That is disgraceful. It is disgusting.

 

Defend the lie. Inceasingly, when Trump tells these spectacular lie, right wingers defend them no matter what the facts are. Usually, they're reduced to quoting trashy right wing blogs that do the same thing.

In fact, it was Congress that set the rate, which was above the rate Trump asked for. It is also the same increase that every other federal worker got.

Trump made a specific claim, one that was patently false. And he has apparantly repeated this false claim a number of times (probably the most in front of his knuckle dragging rally crowds, which will cheer for anything Trump says).

 

Have to generally agree.... When you combine the lying with the known fact that Trump was essentially named as an unidicted co-conspirator in a criminal action for the Campaign Finance Violations, I certainly think Impeachment hearings could begin in the new year. The problem with the lying is that it's hard to pin it down to the lies that are genuinely detrimental to the country. Most of them aren't. Just BS political stuff. Hard to support full Impeachment just on the lying, but your point about CUBO is interesting..

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news...-delays-2019-military-pay-charts-release.html

The Pentagon has delayed release of the 2019 military pay charts until Congress and the White House resolve a standoff on the budgets for several federal agencies and border wall funding that threatens a partial government shutdown at midnight Friday.

The 2.6 percent pay raise for military personnel of all ranks is still guaranteed, but the release of the military pay charts, normally distributed in mid-December by the Defense Finance and Accounting Agency (DFAS), has been put on hold because of a wrinkle in the law that could possibly affect four-star ranks.
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Time for Schumer's Shutdown to end so our Military Men and Women can see how much their new pay raise amounts to.

 

Schumers? I thought Trump said it was his and he would be proud to own it?

 

Wow - that 2.6 percent pay raise is BELOW the private sector wage growth of 3%.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandto...ion/pages/2018-salary-forecast-us-global.aspx

Nothing you wrote changes the fact that Trump LIED to front-line troops.

 

That was in response to both Pelosi and Schumer claiming emphatically he did not have the votes in the House to pass an appropriations bill with Wall funding in it. The President said he did, and they repeated the claim. Schumer inferred with no House bill, his refusal to sign an appropriation unless Wall funding was included would be the President's fault. The President said fine.

But there were the votes, and the House did pass the Bill, just as the President claimed they would.

P & S were left with more egg on their face.

Schumer's Shutdown, and the clock continues to tick.

 

The only thing Trump is guilty of here (unless the 10% figure is a fabrication) is misspeaking, which he often does. What is the more likely scenario? 1) Trump got on AF1 and said to his wife, "I'm going to lie to the troops during a recorded event, no one in the press will catch me lying because its not like they are totally out to get me or anything", or more likely 2) Trump misspoke, and should have said "You haven’t gotten a raise above inflation in more than 10 years”.

More false outrage from the left per usual...

 

Trump continues to lie.

The military follows their pay increases very, very closely, and this was a very stupid of Trump.

 

so I went back and read the transcript.

The conversation about the House votes is at the beginning, and his statement is near the end.

Trump starts out saying he wont' bring it to a vote if the Senate won't pass it. He says he has the votes and could pass the House at any time.

Quite Literally, Pelosi says he doesn't have the votes only Once (not really emphatic, Schumer never says anything on the subject)

Then a lot of back and forth about boarder security, P&S wondering why they are having this discussion in the open, especially when Trump keeps lying about the facts on the matter (costs and such).

Finally, near the end, he makes his statement about shutting it down.

I've bolded the most important sentence IMO. Trump says that he will shut down the Govt if he doesn't get what he wants. Full Stop. And Schumer says he and the Dems believe that Trump shouldn't shut it down.

So yeah, I'd say that this is Trumps shutdown, because he wants funding for the Wall and is overriding the Continuing Resolution that both the Dems and the Rs agreed to.

 

He got them an actual raise, not just a cost of living bump. f

 

Of course, Trump LIED.

Trump LIES 24/7/365 (24/7/366 in a Leap (Presidential Election) Year).

Of course, Trump LIED about the 10% pay raise.

Some people actually believe Trump?

 

I'm of two minds about this. I feared that a Trump presidency would open up the doors for everyone who wondered, 'How hard could it be?' But on the other hand, I think it may have deterred non politicians from running in the future - seeing how important knowledge of the office actually is.

Of course the difference between Trump and all the examples you offer is that Trump was a well known liar and con. But I don't think any of them would think of running now - and really, nor should they.

 

Trump does not have the votes beginning Thursday of next week.

 

He told them they hadn't had a raise in ten years. Lie. There have been raises every year for the past 30 years.
He told them he gave them a 10% raise. Lie. He got them a 2.6% raise.