How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Uh....not really

 

If you think an unborn child with a fully functional brain but underdeveloped lungs is a viable embryo, you don't know what you're talking about.

If I'm mistaken about what you think, please clear it up.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Your erroneous, emotional, juvenile, and bizzarre description of abortion doesn't change a thing.




FoxHastings said: ↑
Before there is any farther descent into the world of Stupidity let me just say that to compare the torture, the suffering , the horror that people, especially Jews, suffered at the hands of Nazis with the quick painless death of a fetus is the height of disrespect and denigrates and makes light of what the Jews went through....and THAT IS DESPICABLE , DEPLORABLE, and DISGUSTING....

especially mocking what happened to people with your ""Stand by a moment while I mop up your crocodile tears............................ OK.. Got it done."""

No, they are not or you could provide proof that these things cause a fetus pain, you didn't, you can't.

No "children" die in abortions, that's just more juvenile, emotional claptrap.

Oh , you've shown clearly that actual pain and suffering by actual people is no big deal to you...


And OF COURSE abortions are performed for CONVENIENCE! WTF else???


It is INCONVEVENIENT to have a kid you do not want.

It is inconvenient to have a kid you can't afford .

It is inconvenient to go through a process that harms your body.

It is INCONVENIENT to risk death to have a kid.

It is INCONVENIENT to have lose your job, suffer financial loss, have career and educational setbacks because of pregnancy and childbirth.





Now YOU may go through life doing everything as INconveneintly as possible to prove some sick point but most people don't.


AND YOU do NOT rule on what is or isn't "convenient" ...must be so frustrating for you

 

Since you think everything from conception on is a "child" then every stage would be viable....so take the fetus out at it's earliest stage , put it on a shelf and watch it grow !!!!.....

 

Fully developed brain is probably around age 20

 

Do you think children magically start feeling pain when they are born?
https://oneofus.eu/2013/05/expert-tells-congress-unborn-babies-can-feel-pain-starting-at-8-weeks/
A child's own nervous system is what causes the child to feel the pain of an abortion, not the umbilical cord tied to the placenta.

It was INCONVENIENT for the Jews to own so many businesses and property in Germany. That didn't justify their murder.
All of your justifications for killing the innocent children don't change the fact that you are killing a child that didn't choose to be there.

With the exception of rape, every mother chose to chance pregnancy, risking all of the inconveniences you listed. None of their children chose to die because of those inconveniences.

So you considered allowing innocent children to live "sick"? That's pretty much what the Nazis said about Jews.

I am saddened by the death of millions of innocent children.

I am also saddened by the damage abortion does to the mother.

I've heard many women lament the fact that they killed their child. They wonder what the child would have become. Some mourn their child's death as long as they live. Some self-medicate to make the grief go away. I met some of these women while I was a volunteer at a drug/alcohol treatment facility.

Here is just one very many forum for parents that regret killing their children: http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/testimonies/

Do you know of a forum for parents that regret not killing their children?

Do you know of any person, man or woman, that regrets allowing their children to be born? I suspect there are a handful of parents that had severely disabled children that wished they had aborted, although those parents I know that had disabled children are happy that their children had whatever life they could have... But any way... Do you know any of them?

Do you know any parents of healthy children (which the vast majority of children killed by abortion) that regret their children being allowed to live?

 

Blah blah blah...NO there is a time when fetuses can feel pain and most abortions are done LONG BEFORE THAT.

IF there is a health threat to woman or fetus other forms of abortions are done and the fetus receives protection from any pain.....some people may not care if the woman dies but most do care.




And your continued CRAP about the Nazis (Godwin's law, YOU LOSE!) is just that...it IS despicable and disgusting to compare the PAINLESS death of a fetus to what the Jews and others suffered under the Nazis...it is the lowest of the low...



SCIENCE, the Great Enemy of Trump supporters says the fetus feels no pain...YOU HAVEN'T PROVEN THEY DO...

I will believe science over your god/leader Trump any day....while he CAGES children in dog kennels and let's them DIE in internment camps without their parents or sends actual BIORN children back to certain suffering and death in their home countries.....with SUPPORT from Anti-Choicers..

 

Depends

Depends on what you mean by “fully functioning brain”. There are neonates born everyday with underdeveloped lungs

 

Premature born babies are post viability

So,,,,,,, are we back to the old “late term abortion” argument again?

 

The conversation was to explain the fact that viability requires more than brain activity.

If a child's libs are not sufficiently developed, full brain function is still not enough for viability.

 

No.. I was explaining to another poster that unborn children feel pain.

 

Why not. Those who claim to care about human life immediately stop caring once the child is born. That is when it becomes inconvenient. There are thousands of unwanted children that will never know what it feels like to be loved, cherished, or even valued. Where are all the people claiming to care?

 

I get the fact that you've been fed that line and not bothered to think it through. Don't feel bad, lots of lefties do that.

Catholic and other Christian charities, along with many secular groups that support life give quite a bit of "their own" money and time to help pregnant mothers and place unwanted children with adoptive parents.

Before you vomit a string of partisan hate you might want to think about it

 

I am not a lefty and I support those religious charities that do so much good for children. There are many people who genuinely care about human life and their actions show it. Before you take credit for what others have done, what have you done?

 

I've done more than some. Less than others.

I didn't take credit for anything. I just pointed out the dishonesty of your partisan talking point.

 

You dishonestly projected an image on me of having a political party and having hate for others. You were wrong. You also projected an image of yourself as one who has genuine care for human life. Have you adopted any of these unwanted children? Im just looking for the truth. I didn't mean to trigger you.

 

You are confused.

I was explaining to someone that viability was further down an unborn child's life than he thought.

Think more and hate less, and you will make these mistakes less often.

 

In wasn't triggered. Sorry to disappoint.

I wasn't projecting. I was responding to the spewing of hatred within a post.

You're the one that projected the hateful leftist meme that people who value unborn life don't value born life.

You should get our and meet people that respect all human life.

I don't call pro-aborts evil, in part because I used to be one. You should recognize that all people that love unborn children are also not evil.

 

Well, if you don't eat than... naturally you die!

 

I'm around 3X20 and am still working on that one.

 

Uh, how would you know what thinking more can do?


You can't get past that standard "Nazi" theme crap and have NEVER shown proof that fetuses feel pain when aborted....

 

You're the one that projected the hateful rightist meme that people who have abortions are like Nazis.....and that people who value BORN life don't value unborn life....


You should get out more and meet people who value women as human life....with all the same rights as you have.


People who love unborn fetuses are not evil but taking away a human beings right to their own body is evil...it IS what the Nazis and slave owners did....

 

You've projecting. I never said anything about people that value born life. Never. Ever.

1/2 of the unborn children killed by abortion in America are female. More than half in some countries. You can't really value women if you don't value young women.

Women can hoose to have sex, or not to. If you respect women as adults, you also have to allow THEM to pay for their actions. Not their children.

Slaveholders and Nazis, like abortionists, thought they could decide who lived and who died based on politics.

That's not me... That's you.

 

Nothing, but @Vegas giants thinks that starvation is the same as abortion. I can only assume that you disagree with him.

 

Yes, but @Doofenshmirtz thinks that it would be very easy for ALL women to access an abortion off the books! I agree with you, that there is "all different circumstances", but Doofenshmirtz disagrees with both of us!

Often the argument from pro-choice people is, "why would you care about someone else's child being aborted? It doesn't affect you, so you shouldn't be against abortion." Well that's a terrible argument, because people who make that argument wouldn't say that a parent terminating their BORN child should be legal, even though they wouldn't be affected by a random child's death.