German far-right leader severely injured after being beaten in ‘assassination attempt’

Well spotted, and I've pointed out the same thing myself over recent months; I sum it up as neuro-linguistic programming. The Left constantly trick the rest of us into believing they're very tolerant and forgiving, but expose the fatal flaws in their simplistic dogmas and then they'll become your worst enemy, and even more violent than the 'far-right'. God how I loathe the Left!

 

This is funny. Migrants in Germany set historic church on fire and it was caused by "stray fireworks". Migrants set homeless man on fire. MSM covers it up. Thousands of cars torched in France by immigrants.
Were you as incensed by left-wing radicals when they published the names and addresses of republicans, and harassed them in restaurants and other public places? Maxine Waters instructed people to harass republicans every chance they got.

 

MSNBC: really?

 

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They those folk what is here in forum mostly called to be "ANTIFA".
They are people of different communist and anarchist groups and ideologies within the political left, who reject the parliamentary democracy and partly the rule of law and want to replace it by an egalitarian society - partly also by using terrorist means.
They exist in Germany as in any other country ... to my knowledge also in you in the UK ... and they are just like their political right counterpart only a loud minority, which unfortunately makes headlines with their actions!

 

Aside fact that no Migrants set historic church on fire by intention and no migrants set homeless man on fire but severeal times Neo Nazis did this or even beat such a homeless person to death ... and no idea which thousands of cars were set on fire in France by them, aside fact that violent protests of all political and society sides are in France more common as in other countries...

Have your American left wing radicals hacked Facebook and Twitter accounts and published the content and chats of the persons?

 

Please provide evidence of this terrorist means. Our antifa managed to hold off the EDL till they were no more. What evidence do you have of any violent group on the 'left' who are engaged in killing people? I suspect this is more fake news. I did check and for Germany what I found was violence on Marches to do with the G8 and what not - the violence being against property. Indeed what Chris Hedges has strongly criticized as I say in this post.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-please-france.546924/page-2#post-1070027431

These are more anonymous types and to be frank we do not know whether they are left or right or Agent Provocateurs. I found no evidence of them getting anywhere near planning and engaging in assassinations.

I believe this is an attempt to equate the left with the far right. Corporations will be happy to team up with fascists but not the left and no, I know of no violent left activity in the UK. If you wish to speak about such people I suggest you say exactly who they are rather than giving them some nebulous name the intent of which is to defame the genuine left who are already being attacked by mainstream - in having accounts deleted for investigative reporting and what not.

Come on then, produce their headlines and No, I have not heard of same in the UK. I have though heard of things like the Integrity Institute.

 

I am sure you know this, but Hitler was still "left-wing". Nazis were just to the "right" of communism, but still far left on the political spectrum, especially compared to American politics. Europe is just far left wing as a whole, their "center" would be our moderate democrats. As where our "center" would look like Anarchy to them.

 

You are probably refering to a breitbart story from roughly one year ago that claimed the oldest church in Germany located in the city of Dortmund was set on fire by a mob of immigrants. That story was debunked as false just a few days after it was published and said church isn't even remotely the oldest in Germany. Breitbart don't care about facts. There was a case in Berlin where four or five young immigrants set the paper on fire which a homeless man from Poland used as a bed. This wasn't covered up in any way by the so-called mainstream media and the bastards where caught very quickly.

 

I do not know about you in the UK to be honest. We had the so-called RAF = Rote Armee Fraktion = transleted: Red Army Faction.
Officially they no longer exist because they have dissolved themselves ... but the clientele of supporters and those who continue to share the political goals are still there.
Look at the riots of Hamburg at the last G20 summit ... those were such left-wing extremists who rioted there with property damage, plunder and violence!
And how do you rate this?

https://www.newsarticleinsiders.com...-of-the-afd-office-stop-the-harm-of-democracy

Is it a terror act of a left extremist?

All terrorist groups are minorities, whether religiously motivated or for political reasons ... But with their actions, they end up in the headlines and thus receive more attention than is actually correct.

 

Oh, I forgot what model citizens Muslims in Germany are. Can't do anything wrong. Any wrong-doing is quickly 'debunked' and labelled as fake news, or blamed of Germans. The church was set on fire with fireworks. It was put out, but that doesn't make the story false; and it involved Muslims shouting Allahu akbar. Of course the MSM in Germany would never admit that their immigrants are troubling making, beggars with little education and no skills.

 

Incorrect, Caligula... here is the image DW and Tageshau displayed yesterday, which was carefully 'cropped' to avoid showing the horrible damage to his forehead:



But, THIS is what Magnitz actually suffered -- and this morning I can't find ANY further news about this AT ALL....

 

Good to know that your source was this BS fake news of Breitbart ... they even lie if they tell 1+1=2 at least...
Yes, the church burned due to fire works, but no one shouted Allah hu akbar ... this is a fairy tale of right-wing scum!

Another story of this Hungarian BS Media about Germany? The German city of Essen is during time of Ramadan temp. re-named into "Fasting".
Note ... Essen is also the noun for food and essen is the verb for eating .... that's why ...
That had thought up by 2 German Comedian as Joke and the Hungarian version of Breitbart reported that of course as Breaking News to show how bad it is in Germany.

It's the same with the rest your telling ... almost all fairy tales!

 

There was a sentence in the comment that you quoted that I didn't write, I assume it went in there accidentally (?).
Please provide a Tagesschau link that uses that pic, I didnt see it on their website.
If you cannot find any further news, let me help you with this; all very recent. Magnitz himself has already left the hospital.

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/angriff-afd-107.html
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...kann-auch-ein-Raubueberfall-gewesen-sein.html
https://www.zeit.de/politik/2019-01...hland-2019-01-frank-magnitz-polizei-view-html
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...-den-afd-politiker-bekannt-ist-a-1247188.html

 

OK thank you Mandelus. These were Germany groups, maybe getting started again, I do not know. I do have a distant memory of Europe having more terrorist groups that you could count and how secure the US was while funding same in the UK till 9/11. I don't know of any of those kind of people in the UK. We had Northern Ireland instead and indeed it is something which people have concerns about with Brexit so yes, these sort of things can be quite fragile and possibly sparked off again. I accept that you may think it might be these people. It would help understanding though if you did mention them. There is though also a movement from the right to try and label the left as somewhat like these people. Corbyn for instance has suffered from this and as I said many alt left websites whose sin appears to be investigative journalism are also being lumped in with a somewhat to be feared left. so I think we need to be careful not to accidentally collude with people up to that. The integrity Institute for instance, while claiming to be cutting through propaganda appears rather to be creating it and smears against people with political views they don't like like the genuine left!

 

Thank you for this information. I'm glad to know that Herr Magnitz is out of the Krankenhaus, even though he will surely be a very long time recovering from this attack. In truth, I can't go back now and find a link to what appeared in the German media yesterday... they seem to be ignoring the issue altogether today. Why doesn't that surprise me? The cropped-image I showed above appeared yesterday, and today you won't even see them in any of the German media I've seen. Again, why doesn't that surprise me...?

'Parenthetisch gesprochen', I doubt that any active pursuit of the three 'masked men' (?) who did this is high on Kanzlerin Merkel's "to-do" list today, or that of the forthcoming 'Merkel-clone', the predictably underwhelming "AKK-phenom"....

 

Naw - completely absurd & without logical basis.

But the guy that was beaten up is scum, so my reaction is "meh."

 

I won't argue with your characterization... indeed, even Germans can go nuts trying to figure out who is WHAT today -- let alone who was 'what' back in the 1920's....

We might agree, though, that Soviet Union-style Communism is what was spreading rapidly in Germany beginning soon after World War I ended. How much were the National Socialists under Anton Drexler similar to the Communists? I can't say conclusively, but perhaps the defining difference for what became the actual "Nazi" Party was the emphasis on NATIONAL. These "Nazi" Germans were passionately nationalistic, whereas the Communists were -- and still are -- passionate internationalists, who detest national identities, nation-based culture and language, national borders, etc.

 

Fairy tales indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErWulaENbJU
Good video. You shouldn't watch it. And the white dumbass government is going to go door to door to talk to the parents of these gangbangers instead of charging them with arson.
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Let’s stick to the facts. No, wrong-doings are not debunked or labelled as false or even blamed on Germans, and the breitbart story is false.
Breitbart did most certainly not sent one of their journalists to Dortmund in order to wait for a church to be burnt down. They took the official report of the Dortmund police and turned it into a different and false story. The problem is that bits and pieces are true, Breitbart distorted them, created their own narrative and people without German language skills have no means to check what’s true and what isn’t.
A scaffold caught fire, not the church, Dortmund police and the fire brigade reported it wasn’t deliberately set on fire because that’s what the distorted breitbart story claimed afterwards. If you have better sources than they have, feel free to post them. The fire was put out very quickly.
If I remember correctly, breitbart claimed a mob of 1,000 burned down the church while shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ and police as well as fire fighters were deliberately attacked by said mob and couldn’t put out the fire, so the church burnt down. False. These sources are probably not of real help to you as they are all in German. You don’t have to believe me, ask user Durandal, he seems to know German.
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Dortmunder-Polizei-reagiert-auf-Fake-News-article19485196.html
Die Polizeibehörde stellte nun klar: "Herausragende oder spektakuläre Silvestersachverhalte wurden bis zum heutigen Tage nicht gemeldet." Auf einem Platz in der Innenstadt hätten sich rund 1000 Menschen versammelt. Es sei zwar zum Teil zu unsachgemäßem Einsatz von Silvesterfeuerwerk gekommen, dies sei jedoch unterbunden worden.
Die Feuerwehr hatte am Neujahrstag gemeldet, dass es durch eine Silvesterrakete zum Brand eines Gitterschutznetzes an der Reinoldikirche gekommen sei. Mit dem Netz ist ein Baugerüst verkleidet. Das Feuer sei schnell gelöscht worden. Die Polizei hat nach Angaben einer Sprecherin "keinerlei Erkenntnisse, dass die Rakete absichtlich abgefeuert wurde".

https://www.wr.de/staedte/dortmund/...timmung-gegen-moslems-machen-id209177421.html
https://www.derwesten.de/region/100...e-ein-us-portal-die-wahrheit-id209171583.html

Primary source. Official report from the Dortmund police.
https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/4971/3527791
Your comment re the msm shows that you're not really familiar with the media here, but that's ok, why would you anyway. These things are reported, problems concerning migration are a huge topic in the media and in politics, a claim like "would never admit that ..." is excuseable but simply wrong.

 

Nope, I already gave you links. The attack on Magnitz is still being discussed and communicated in the media as we speak, it's not ignored.
Three hours old.
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/angriff-afd-107.html
Three hours old.
https://www.merkur.de/politik/afd-b...nik-auf-eigene-verantwortung-zr-10968771.html
Two hours old.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...-den-afd-politiker-bekannt-ist-a-1247188.html
There's plenty of coverage.

 

Interesting. Then, how do you account for the 'cropped' images of Magnitz yesterday? Did you see ANY images of the full damage to his head at ANY of the major German news sites? I didn't! This was content-manipulation, pure and simple. I had to get the full image from a British news site....

I have observed that today, most Germans prefer to have things simple, uncomplicated, mellow, and calm. Not a bad way to live, of course, except that they've got a government that has been working day and night to turn the country into an internationalist pile-of-sh*t. The AfD has risen to oppose that in Germany, and as a result, you can see what happens to one of their party members on the street in Bremen.

 

Nationalism or globalism doesn't change their economic strategies. Nazis wanted everyone to be "german", that's why they conquered their neighbors. Soviets wanted shadow governments. But even globalism goes against communism since their ideological ground work goes by having no luxury items, or things that were not indigenous to the region. Socialism by means of Nationalism or by Communism is just a difference in how to rule the slaved, like the difference between the NY Giants football team and the Jets. They are both playing the same game, you just want your team to win the way they've chose to play the game.

 

"far right"? what exactly is "far right" other than an attempt to prejudice the beliefs of those who disagree with the Left? Most of these guys would be considered mainstream 20 years ago.

 

I dont support violence, but we can all understand how his bigotry and extremism could motivate someone to act out.

words of hate, have consequences.