CNN Poll: More see Trump win likely as Biden leads crowded Democratic field

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    There is nothing wrong in that photograph, this isn't 'Wag the Dog'. Nor is there anything wrong with Trump patting Ivanka's waist. People are getting truly desperate to find stuff to smear their opponents.
     
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    Biden or Sanders would both be a disaster as would Warren, Pelosi or Feinstein, all for the same reasons, too old, too establishment, either too far to the left for Sanders/Warren and too Wall Street for the rest. I think it comes down to Booker or O'Rourke and after his Spartacus moment I think it comes down to O'Rourke.
     
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    The real question is whether Mueller will finish his Micawber investigation before the election?
     
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    RoBeto has one thing Democrats need.... A short resume.

    Obama won the nomination, and Presidency, because he could make all kinds of ridiculous claims about himself and the MSM could easily be led to follow them without a significant history of what he actually did.

    What RoBeto doesn't have is built in race/gender card... That's going to be a problem.
     
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    Fools if they don't, he is their candidate and many voters supported him rather than the GOP. If he wins, great, if he loses then they can blame him and get back to business as usual. The Dems have enough senile old fools of their own and some are seriously thinking of running.
     
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    Or help him with the mainstream?
     
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    The Nutstream easily outweigh the mainstream on the left.

    The skateboard / pothead crowd will eat it up.
     
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    No the republicans will run a candidate who they think will win. They are not about to give up their gravy train for the rich and their endless attempts to divert resources from helping the poor and middle class.
     
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    Thank you, We need to be reminded of that from time to time, especially since the cons on this board seem to think the Electoral College is appointed entirely by the Great Christian Anti Illuminati Council of Liberty Loving Lizard Men and the Popular Vote has no effect whatsoever.

    I think this may well be the year of the Woman in the Democratic Party as I've seen two already who are both articulate and young. (it is time we got rid of the gerontocracy) That may even be the same with the Republicans, as President 10568732 will be raving about pardoning himself from his special and exclusive suite at Lev-en-worth by January of 2020 if not sooner
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Reupublican Party is presently devolving into several branches:

    One thinks the wrong side won in WWII

    One thinks we're run by Secret Societies and Aliens from Space

    One really doesn't care about politics at all, they just want lower taxes and the government to keep its hands off their Medicare

    One believes all of the above, as convenient

    One is really radical and extreme

    And one very tiny and quiet group, (See them off in that corner there?), is the Republican Party as it used to be. The Party of Eisenhower, Reagan, George Will and William Buckley. They've been silent as the grave many of them occupy lately as they know the danger of keeping bad associates. They HOPE that the RNC will see its errors and awaken from the madness that has gripped them since 2016 when they ran a senile madman as their candidate, won one election and lost their soul. They've been doing that and becoming Democrats ever since.
     
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    Better than running Michael Dukakis?
     
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    I would be interesting to see a poll showing how many Trump supporters had their opinion changed by the Comey revelations, personally I don't think so, this was a revolt against Progressivism by a silent majority sick of being constantly kicked and vilified by a left wing elite who took their votes for granted.
    The two ladies you refer to are millstones around the DNC's neck and scare the hell out of the mainstream voters they're going to have to win back to take the Whitehouse. What exactly will Trump be found guilty off? And even if he is it's Pence who would pardon him (as George W said he would pardon Clinton).
     
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    Only in terms of the USSR winning WW2? I think it's more the left that are the conspiracy theorists theses days, honestly some of what they come out with nowadays puts the Black Helicopter crowd to shame, look at all those ridiculous Handmaids fearing a theocracy from a President who appeared in Playboy?
    Parties evolve, sometimes for the better (the 'Dixeicrats'), sometimes for the worse ('progressives').
     
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    A President who appeared in Playboy is JUST the kind who would put a theocracy in. Religions, with all due respect, are and always have been the very apotheosis of hypocrisy, particularly when they move into the area of politics.

    You guys need to look up and read a little bit in depth on the Borgia Popes. Some good books out recently.
     
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    Your use of the "silent majority" shibboleth betrays you as the Trumpist I believe you are. The Silent Majority were invented by Spiro Agnew as the earliest defense of Nixon and somehow didn't prevent him from resigning. They're silent because they don't exist. All polls have always agreed that Americans are moderates, not liberals OR conservatives

    Pubs are the ones who should be scared. We don't have to take back anybody. You've given us the mainstream on a silver platter over the last two years as the MidTerms clearly showed. We are sick of conspiracies and enraged by chanting Nazis. The next elections are ours to lose, and I just hope we don't as that sometimes seem a particular and very sad talent of ours.
     
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    That's a rediculous claim you could make about any candidate with equal reasoning.
     
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    :rolleyes:
    You're a media mushroom.
    Think for yourself rather than what you are told to think.
    You talk of white supremacy, without realizing it's entire history is actually Democrat...but regardless, they are a infinitesimal percentage of the population and not representative of anyone other than the handful they are.
     
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    Mother always told me I thrive in filth and squalor

    WS was Democrat until 1964 when the Party's switched sides, that's over 50 years ago so I'm going to assume it's permanent..
     
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    The parties switched sides in 1964? LOL. Really?

    Is that when Robert Byrd (D-KKK) was Senate Majority Leader?
     
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    Oh good God guy. 1964?? :rofl:
    Ever hear of the projects? Urban segregation? Packing black people like sardines conveniently away from white neighborhoods and jobs??
    That didn't happen in the south kid. In happened in virtually every liberal northern city clear to the 1980's.
    You desperately need an education.
     
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    And you desperately need to stop listening to conservative mouthpieces who are trying to convince everyone that everything is a conspiracy. Most everything that has been done for black people has been done with the backing of the best research and scientific theory in the social sciences there is. Most of if has worked very well somewhere else and the reason it sometimes doesn't work here is because conservatives get into them and then cut their money off. Oh and sometimes they do work and work very well, but Rush and Hannity don't talk about them and lie when they do.
     
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    Gee.. That's a bizarre excuse.

    Did you ever hear of Chicago? LA? NYC? Baltimore? Detroit?

    These hellholes and many others are what happens when Democrats make all of the decisions.

    Good luck blaming Republicans.
     
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    The Borgias kept it quiet, Trump's is bare for all to see (not least Melania)
     
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    Not a Trumpist, not even American. The silent majority gave Nixon a stunning victory over McGovern and put Reagan and Trump in power. American's are moderates which is why the DNC's high profile drift to the left is so disastrous for them.

    Pubs?

    Yes, the next elections are yours to lose and you seem intent on doing so just like in 2016. The midterms showed that people are sick of anti-Trump conspiracies, the chanting Demicrazies of various hues, hence why they increased the GOP's hold on the Senate, the Kavanaugh effect, gave them a majority of governorships and gave the Dems gains in the Congress much less than Bill and Obama suffered who both then went on to win re-election handsomely.
     
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    Okay....obviously you are just trolling. No one is as dumb was what you just wrote.
     

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