Justice Gibsburg and her health

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was waiting for an uninformed person to make this dumb, unless remark.

    Are you aware that Justice Thomas has never once asked a question in oral argument? He doesn't think oral argument is useful. Should he be removed from the bench?
     
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    She's home sick recovering from surgery. Sometimes people have to stay home from work for a period of time due to illness. That doesn't mean they should resign.
     
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    Unless recovery from Cancer is a lot easier on people than some say, she might be very tired a lot of the time. But she has a staff of legally trained clerks doing a lot of her homework for her. She can perhaps be more recovered by the time she has to vote. She, based on my own twice recovery from surgery, could be pretty down for a couple of months. Still when she feels better, provided she does not slip backwards could vote. When she became close pals of the deceased Alito it had to run a cold wave of fear in the hearts of Democrats. But time will tell.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Man you really tried to rip him to pieces. not clear why but you really got into his face.
     
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    there is recovering from surgery and then there is falling asleep on the job. she should do the right thing and resign. but politics will not allow her to.
     
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    On her worst day she is the best legal mind on the court
     
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    Because his comment was incredibly ****ing dumb and he should feel bad.
     
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    When did she fall asleep on the job?
     
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    Expect some to speak of this. But she is more than recovering, she is very old age. I am 80 and very lucid and people knowing me claim i look 10 years younger and my health is decent enough I seldom have to visit a doctor. Doctors kindly schedule me and at times i cancel the taxpayer paid for visit since I don't want to simply go to a doctor merely because he wants to set an appointment where he tells me I don't need changes to my meds and he says I am doing fine. She is 5 years older than I am and I have no clue if she is on a no exercise program, a mid range or high range program. The more she walks and is active, the faster she recovers provided they got all of the cancer.

    Daily using e mail i talk to a man of 99 who is very lucid of mind but is hampered by lack of exercise and lack of mobility. But his mind seems very clear to me.
     
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    She naps during the state of the union speeches. Maybe her naps extend to her leaving a hearing and going to her own office.

    She discusses her napping in this video. She discussed naps during the Obama speeches.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you like being talked down to like that over your fashion of talking? Can't a single Democrat speak and not sound like he is so superior to other posters he gets to rip them apart?
     
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    Don't for a minute think Thomas will not retire in the next two years. The timing is perfect and he is far too leftie for my way of thinking.
     
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    The public is far more interested in oral arguments than the Justices are. And All justices have a staff of trained lawyers working for them to do a lot of the heavy mundane lifting.

    She may not want to end her life during a court hearing and want some time off to do other things. Or she may be so used to working she will continue and go face down on the job. Napping is helpful. I am not clear if she also naps during oral testimony but her clerks can pick her up and I believe they do that for her. Pick her up on arguments not pick her up to carry her around.
     
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    Snorer in the court? Ruth Bader Ginsburg snoozes
    Justice dozes off during political redistricting hearing, colleagues let her sleep
    Published: 03/01/2006 at 11:54 PM
    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2006/03/35058/#XIlmVtT2d71esij4.99

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was caught snoozing during oral arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court

    Snorer in the court!

    March 7, 2006: Six days after WND reported how Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was caught nappin’ on the job, WND editor Joseph Farah posted a column highlighting the incident which received scant coverage in the national media.

    “Most Americans didn’t see this picture,” wrote Farah. “I’m quite sure they would have if the Supreme Court justice asleep at the switch were Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia.

    “But it was Ruth Bader Snoozeburg catching 40 winks during a Supreme Court hearing last week. And she is a darling of the U.S. media. …


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/this-day...g-is-snorer-in-the-court/#rHehUvh7ftDWUPJJ.99

    https://www.wnd.com/2017/03/this-day-in-wnd-history-justice-ginsburg-is-snorer-in-the-court/
     
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    Justice Thomas rules on cases according to the Constitution, unlike Ginsberg who rules based on her personal views on what she thinks would be a "fair" result.
     
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    I was waiting for an uninformed person to make this dumb, useless remark. Are you aware that Thomas's position is common at the higher appellate levels, based on the reasonable belief that in high appellate cases that "it's all in the briefs and record already" and not any laziness, illness or mental defect? Oral argument before the SCOTUS is a tradition that formed long before modern tech, word processing, printing, copying, near effortless research that allow briefs to do most of the argument and that argument is easily comprehended by judges and their clerks. Oral argument is a formality that should continue on the off chance of very imbalanced resources, that the people on one side are not high powered lawyers with the ease of modern tech at their disposal (prisoners for example), but is mostly superfluous. Were I on a high appellate bench, I wouldn't ask many if any questions during oral argument either.

    To the topic, IMO there's nothing wrong with RBG having recovery time. I believe Rehnquist did similar. I don't expect her to last the year, who knows? If she feels forced to try by partisan concerns, that's her business. OTOH, if she ended up on life support or similar, and they tried to keep her on SCOTUS despite that somehow, that would be an immoral and grisly piece of partisan excess that the voters would respond to in an extremely negative way.
     
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    stop deflecting, this isnt about absenteeism, its about ruling outside the court room , if she cant come to work thats fine, her chair remains empty and the remaining 8 will rule... simple
     
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    Not unless she or the chief justice agree. Sorry it's not up to you
     
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    Thank you for your non-contribution. Do you understand that I was responding to someone who believed Ginsburg should be removed because she is not attending oral argument?
     
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    or, or, or...

    On her best day she is the worst legal mind on the court.
     
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    ^^^Total partizan nonsense that lacks a factual basis.^^^
     
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    Wrong
     
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    It makes sense to people who know the law and have been paying attention.
     
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    The Thomas analogy was inapt, and if a nonleft person forwarded it, you and I both know that the howls of "racist!" would resound. If there is any apt analogy, it's Rehnquist, who missed many oral arguments and died while still on SCOTUS. The poster's opinion that it's "time for her to go" is materially distinct from "should be removed." I believe it's time for her to go too, also that Rehnquist should have retired before he did, but do not believe RBG should be impeached.
     
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    I that that is pretty accurate, but dishonorable is a stretch. She can't control who follows her, at best only delay it for a brief time. No doubt when she was appointed there was political influence being applied then too. In any case, her tenure is almost certainly near the end, and despite any conflict in ideology she seems to have been dedicated to the job and relatively consistent in her the application of law as she sees it.

    Now if she were to become physically unable to continue, or suffer debilitating mental complications (stroke, etc) from her illness, and refused to step down- that would be a different situation. I doubt that would happen.
     
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