Would You Vote For a Killer for President?

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  1. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While the right wingers run Kennedy Chappaquidick on loop, saying that Dems hire KILLERS to lead, not a damn Republican EVER mentioned that Laura Bush killed. And, we don't even have a full accounting of the responsibility of that crash.
     
  2. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless its a right wing hero. like Zimmerman. In that case, you back the sociopath till he fulfills his destiny.
     
  3. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have been approached by two men with hatchets. A man with a shotgun pointed at me. A few knives. A whole firing squad of cops, told the story here once or twice. Been attempted ran off road many times. Been threatened with mass as well as single slaughter. NOT once did I make the decision to kill. All would be JUSTIFIED, but few would be BELIEVED by authorities as justified. I would be sitting in prison if I did JUST one of them.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you think Zimmerman is a hero?
     
  5. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can only go by what right wingers have trolled me, but they say that Trayvon was going to play knockout game on Caucasians, sure as shootin. And that Zimmy babay was a hero for cutting down the menace, before he killed us all.
     
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    Millions of Dems voted for Obama when without authority he committed the extrajudical killings of Americans.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have never thought Zimmerman was a hero. So it must have been you that thought he was a hero since I never brought it up.

    As far as I am concerned Zimmerman was stupid. However, I also thought he acted in self defense as most of the evidence indicated.
     
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    She had a wreck at an intersection where there had been fatal wrecks before. One can easily infer that the intersection was dangerous.

    Besides Laura Bush wasn't a member of Congress.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kinda full of yourself aint ya? You are all the crazy right wing ball of wax all on your own?
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    To the OP, doesn't count because I said nothing counting under color of authority. Like it or not presidents have full authority to conduct strikes by military forces without approval by anyone else.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Zimmerman would mean kind of what I was alluding to in the OP. No doubt to me that at the time of the shooting Zimmerman acted in self defense. But he was stupid as he clearly put himself in a situation that led to his being forced to use a gun in self defense.
     
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    President's do not have the authority to conduct extrajudical killings of Americans.
     
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    Is there a circumstance where I would? Yes.
    Does the number matter? No.
     
  14. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

    In a new book, Mrs Bush claimed she suffered years of guilt and lost her religious faith over the tragedy which happened when she drove through a stop sign as a teenager.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...eaks-about-car-crash-which-killed-friend.html

    Was she twirling her hair? Texting?

    She and a girlfriend were hurrying to a drive-in cinema when, driving her father's car, she ran through a stop sign on a dark country road and hit a car being driven by Mike Douglas, also 17, a star sportsman and popular student at her school. Nobody was ever charged and there was no evidence that either driver had been drinking.


    Distracted driving is an OFFENSE. Hurrying, and hitting someone, particularly if speeding, can get you in REAL trouble. But, no resources were applied to ANY investigation.
     
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    I had an uncle, and knew aquaintances, that would go to bars, with guns, and get sassy with patrons, HOPING one would provide the opportunity to off a human consequence free.

    In fact most gay bashing is this type.
     
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    You were trying to accuse me of thinking Zimmerman was a hero. No such thing. You need to get over putting labels on people and then trying to force characteristics on them based on that label. It is an ignorant lazy way of thinking.
     
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    Look at all the people associated with Trump who have died mysteriously, far more than the Clintons.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um, I said right wingers, and YOU stepped up and declared the mantle. It is YOU that is lazy and all the other things you accuse me of.
     
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    Think about what you said. If someone bangs in your car window and puts a gun in your face, are you going to say- "Excuse me, but are you a serial killer, or just having a bad day?"

    There always have and always will be cases where someone will get away with murder- But a person bent on murdering who is shot dead will not get away, nor kill again.
    There is a critical decision that must be made in self-defense, and there is virtually never time to explore the psychology or morality- this is split second stuff.
    Perfection isn't possible here, but generally the decisions of rational people at those moments will always be in the best interests of us all. Our justice system does a very poor job of taking the truly dangerous out of circulation permanently, and that is the only correct choice to make. If your life is in imminent danger, you personally know the reality- but other people hearing about it later will begin to compromise logic, to question your decision, and water down the answer... perhaps even decide there was no threat, and prosecute you.
    Justice is a very elusive thing, and far too often another person dies because it failed.

    Nobody wants to make a mistake- and people do make some... but government makes a lot more. More than one in five of the people we convict for murder and imprison will murder again. That does not include those whom we fail to catch, or fail to convict. That is people in the class called "Serial killers".

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    Take a look at your own words.
     
  21. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is what is called changing ones post to disillusion others.

    See what I did there? the UBIQUITOUS ONES, to illustrate the ubiquitous YOU.
     
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    It wouldn't be an automatic decision. It would be based on the totality of circumstances and his/her overall character and qualifications.
     
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    There are almost no "non-fatal part(s) of the body." Shooting someone to wound them is for movies. In real life, the only justification you have to shoot somebody is being in fear for your life. Also, any time you shoot somebody, legally speaking, you are attempting to kill them.
     
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    I did not change your words. I did point out that you used the word "you" which in this case meant me.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    In self-denial? Sure, most likely. Might depend on the details of the case.
    And a few hundred fell for half-boiled tinfoil conspiracy nonsense like the above.
     

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