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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    We are interested in US politics because this looks like the end of Pax Americana.
    The world is in flux and who knows what will happen as a result.
     
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    If you want to use the past as an example, perhaps you should talk to an american marine or three who would prefer to fight alongside aussies more than any other nationality...
    But I digress...perhaps this song illustrates the America of today......

    .https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=BQSBRL&PC=BQ02&q=john+cougar+crumbng+down
     
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  3. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Preaching to the converted .
    JCM said it right.
     
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    LOL, there is truth to this!
     
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    And you fear Trump will do this? On what basis is this fear founded?
     
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    Reality!
     
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    Examples of Trump ending Pax Americana would be?
     
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    Inciting a war with NK!
     
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    Didn't notice any war with NK. Did I miss something? All I saw was NK forced to stop it's threats of war, it's bomb and missle test and it's provocative missle flights over our allies territories.
     
  10. Sallyally

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    Haven't you noticed ?
    "As we approach the two-year mark of the Trump Presidency, the implications and the effects of the “America First” policy are becoming clear. Supporters of the multilateral rules-based world order are alarmed. We are witnessing the end of Pax Americana; the end of a generally benign U.S. hegemony; the end of U.S. support for a global system created by America and her allies after the Second World War. America First heralds the return of mercantilism. This unravelling of globalization, free trade, and worldwide value chains, will have negative economic implications for us all. And we were warned. Donald Trump has been open about his disdain for many aspects of the international global system since the 1990s."
    https://www.europenowjournal.org/2018/11/07/america-first-and-the-end-of-pax-americana/
     
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    Trade policy and military peace and stability are not synonymous.
     
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    Don't see what you mean?
     
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    You earlier stated your opposition to Trump was based on your fear he would destroy pax americana which is pertaining to peace and stability. When I ask for examples of Trump doing this you transitioned to economics and trade policy.
     
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    The Pax Americana resulted from military and economic supremacy.
    China is now supplanting the US its role as world leader.
     
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    We are getting off track here, this is a welcome thread.
     
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    Greetings from Canada..... I am trying to think of my discussions that I have going that I am hoping that you might really have some fun making fun of..... and disagreeing with.

    I am pretty sure that you will have fun with this one:
    Is President Trump's IQ around 156?


    If you have no idea who Mark Taylor is........ you may be off to a good start.
    Is Mark Taylor a prophet?

     
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    Rule is kind of a strong word......... but the Australians were astonishingly helpful during WWI and WWII.... and if the theory that the beginning of WWIII is in the realm of money....... then they might just be interested in assisting in this squabble as well...... They sure do have the applicable real estate for what I am suggesting here:


    Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?
     
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    This analysis of his mental state by a psychologist may be somewhat encouraging to you.....
    I sure liked it and found it to be encouraging.

     
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    And Trump is the one trying to reverse that trend so again why do you think Trump is s threat to Pax Americana?
     
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    He is trying to reverse china's custom of stealing intellectual property, and adjusting the balance of trade which is in China's favour.
    He is also withdrawing America from its' position of world leader by cuddling up to former enemies, repulsing previous allies, giving NATO the flick and not listening to his advisors who are better informed than he is about military and diplomatic stuff.
     
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    And this is a threat to Pax Americana how?


    It was an obama policy to lead from behind and he was led by the world into libya. How'd that work out? Trump on the other hand is once again out in the lead and his success with NK is an example of that leadership.
     
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    Maybe because they are afraid it will divert the flow of migrants that had been heading to the U.S. to all start flowing into Canada instead?

    Then they might not be able to maintain such a welcoming open doors policy anymore.
     
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    We will now have a Pax Sinica because the US is relinquishing its' position as world leader and China is taking the place of the US.

    Does that mean " But. Obama" ?
     
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    me too.
     
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    I asked how Trump attempting to reverse the trend of china becoming the world's economic leader was a threat to Pax Americana and you dodged the question.
    I pointed out it is Obama that relinquished world leadership militarily and you evaded the subject.
    This conversation started long ago when I asked how you thought Trump was a threat to Pax Americana which is ostensibly is the reason you fear him and I've given you multiple chances to make your case and you have done nothing but dodge and deflect. I was hoping you might be a new leftist in here worth debating but I see you are just more of the same. Welcome to the forum and have a nice day. I'll waste no more time with you.
     
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