Pelosi: No State of the Union in the House until shutdown ends

He has proposed said legislation...one that is a compromise. Will the Desm vote for it? Will they support Dreamers?

 

Is that the kind of "wall" we're talking about now?

 

Nope. He should have held it somewhere else. Bad move by Trump.

 

I don't know who the President of Mexico was. Was it Fox? Or are you blaming Obama for rail safety in Mexico?

 

Those hordes of 'migrants' covering the rooftops of those rail cars WEREN'T headed into Mexico! Those trains disgorged tens of thousands of 'migrants' who came crashing right into our country where they were lovingly sent by the Obama minions to compounds throughout the entire United States for feeding, medical attention, and everything else that liberal Democrats could think to give them -- courtesy of the taxpayers!

But you and your Leftist cadres know that, and simply want to 'look the other way' while a sewer pipe from the third-world empties into the United States. THAT corresponds much more closely to a rational description of "TREASON" than anything we've seen Trump doing....

 

Pelosi obviously won, but I still would have preferred if Trump had been allowed to deliver the address in m'lady's chambre - no guns, vuvuzelas, or TelePrompters allowed.

His braying that he was "proud" to shut down the government if he did not get his way has driven his abysmal numbers even lower.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/​

 

Those trains were in Mexico. They didn't cross into the US.

 

It will be conservatives who reign in rampant trumpery, and promote a rational immigration policy.

 

Too bad nobody has thought to poll American citizens on how we feel about all the murders, drug dealer crimes, gangs, 'epidemic' drug-addiction, and other fun we're treated to in this country thanks directly and indirectly to ILLEGAL ALIENS pouring in here for decades.

Instead, it's just one non-stop poll after another showing how much people dislike the policies of Donald Trump... right? How much WORSE does it have to get in this country before "we, the people" realize how we've been lead around with a ring in the end of our noses?

 

How do you define compromise? Is giving BACK what he rescinded (DACA) really a compromise?

 

From the side that has offered nothing. Talk about rich.

 

Yes but it was only ATF walking. A general strike by Fed workers would be a totally different thing.

 

Nice to see you standing with the big corporations who could care less about our citizens and just want the cheap labor. That's how you define a "rational immigration" policy huh Natty?

 

DACA was never a law, it was being challenged in the Courts and doesn’t look good. He wanted Congress to pass a law and actually give dreamers protection. Yes, getting Congress to pass it and actual protection is a compromise

 

Despite the hysterical scare tactics, Americans seem capable of recognizing that illegal aliens commit such atrocities at a lower rate than home-grown dastards, and that a "big, beautiful wall" is not a rational solution for excluding them.

Americans confirm, in survey after survey, that they do not want Trump's "big, beautiful wall" that he repeatedly promised them Mexico would pay for:

http://pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

 

If you wish to stand with your big corporations, that is your prerogative. I'll continue to support a comprehensive, realistic, sensible approach to immigration.

 

Had you done your homework rather than rant with such ignorance you would know that your hero Donny Dump has ignored proofs made by his own government which verify that the drugs which menace our society do not come from the border but come from ports of entry. This has already been discussed on this forum but for some reason you choose to ignore it.

Importing of drugs causes serious damage to society. But that idiot Trump with your approval allows those dangerous things into our society because he refuses to put in the proper technology at those points of entry that would stop a great deal of those drugs. Democrats in Congress voted to fund that technology. But your hero refuses to join them. Because your hero favors the continued importing of dangerous drugs into society that makes his actions treason. It follows that anyone who supports him in those crimes is equally treasonous.

 

Obama DEPORTED more people:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661



Your hero Dump deported FEWER people:

https://www.economist.com/united-st...-deporting-fewer-people-than-barack-obama-did




Using your great "logic" that makes your hero a traitor.

 

That's what you are doing Natty. They hate the wall just as much as your drug dealers child rapists and drunk driving illegals do.

Which you can't explain what that is or how it prevents illegals from coming in. So typical.

 

Oh, I get it now. There were no illegal drugs to amount to anything until Trump became president. There were no illegal aliens being allowed to stay and/or return to the U.S. after being sent away until Trump became president. That's REALLY what you believe?! And you claim that I haven't done my 'homework'. Homework?!

Who do you think owns and runs the big drug cartels in this country? Who do you think had immigration policies that brought tens of thousands of illegals in here, treated them to unending welfare at compounds set up all over the United States, and had little more than feeble "catch-and-release" enforcement of immigration laws? Whose political party do you think gave us "Sanctuary Cities", and "Sanctuary States"? You aren't fooling anybody but fools!

 

If you wish to pretend that the majority of Americans who oppose Trump's wall are advocates for drug dealers, child rapists and drunk drivers, you can, of course.

Meanwhile, rational conservatives opposing a reality-tv entertainer's simplistic and ineffective approach to border security could lead to progress.

 

And Abraham Lincoln had his MySpace account.

LOL...

 

Right natty. Your ideas are so rational for border security you can't even describe what they are or how they would be effective. Thanks for staying predictable.

 

no matter all their fuss, because no matter where its held , they all will have their cameras there... another win for trump

 

False.