FISA Judges Have Been Informed - What Are They Doing????

I believe Carter Page has updated his story since that statement. That was only version 5 or 6.

 

I don't have to defend it.... Nothing bad happened here. A former Trump campaign member with a checkered past was watched for a year and nothing came of it... Nothing from the surveillance has been used against Page, Trump or within any of the Mueller indictments, nor has anything else from the Steele Dossier.

The Steele Dossier, FISA warrant, and Carter Page are all nothing burgers in the world of 2019...

I'll gladly stop defending it if you guys will stop making threads on it.... waste of time for both of us..

 

What side meeting with "Russian intelligence"? What's he been charged with?

 

Then why did they launch a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign and transition team? Why is there a special prosecutor going around trying to throw people in jail because and process crimes in the investigation?

Why don't we start counter-intelligence investigations into to all the Democrats who have announce they are running to make sure they don't have any collusion going on with Russians?

 

Look at the Mueller witch hunt it morphed into. Yes, this left wing corruption is a big deal whether you want to admit it or not.

 

If there are any legitimate suspicions, I'd have no problem with that... And I'm talking Papa, Page, Manafort, Flynn level suspicions..

I would assume most (all) Dem candidates will be more careful than Trump was on who they hire...

 

If you really think the Mueller investigation had any origin in the Steele Dossier or the FISA warrant results, you need to be aware of the flying saucers over your home this very second and RUN!!!!

 

We need to investigate them too, who knows what contacts they have with Russians. They might not even know Russians are trying to influence the election through them.

 

Then in what did it have it's origins that brought the Trump campaign under it's scrutiny?

 

I'm sorry, but the people who are responsible to resolve disputes like the one your are pushing here are the FISA judges. It is their call.

But national security experts and former FBI officials say that verification of each and every fact mentioned in FISA applications is not necessarily required.

“Evidence presented to the court does not have to be rigorously proved or corroborated. But it does have to be plausible and credible — not just rumor or hearsay,” Steven Aftergood, the director of the Project on Government Secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

The FBI can cite information that the bureau has not fully verified or corroborated as long as the source for the information is made clear and an assessment of the reliability of the information is included in the application. (RELATED: Internal FBI Documents Raise Questions About Use Of Unverified Steele Dossier)

It is up to one of the judges sitting on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to decide if the evidence meets the standard of probable cause that a surveillance target is acting as an agent of a foreign power.

Silly Trumpers.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/03/04/fbi-dossier-verified/

 

Yep.

We already have the campaign colluding with a known Russian agent by sharing confidential campaign polling data.
That is conspiracy. Mueller hasn't brought out his conspiracy charges yet because he's still laying the ground work.

Stone's indictment made it clear he was in passing information back and forth with wikileaks AND in the Russian indictments admitted he was "probably" the individual "connected with the trump campaign" who was in direct contact with Guccifer 2.0.

Meuller has laid the foundation and lobby of his legal strategy. He's bound to move on to the "luxury suites" in short order, since it is a given Donnie Jr, lied to congress.

 

Still no content.

Gruber and Stalin were right.

 

The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreementby lying to them).


3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign, and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated, but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Are you not aware of the criminals tRUMP surrounded himself with?

 

I KNOW you know this Blues, but it don't cost me anything to repost it again...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/...e-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html

It's a long article, but still the best summary of the 2016 early investigation I're read... I'll give you the gist

SNIP
The F.B.I. investigated four unidentified Trump campaign aides in those early months, congressional investigators revealed in February. The four men were Michael T. Flynn, Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. Each was scrutinized because of his obvious or suspected Russian ties.
ENDSNIP

My guess is that Page, Flynn, and Coffee Boy were worrisome enough collectively, but when you bring a professional foreign political operator in, and then make him your unpaid campaign manager in June, that sent the red flags to eleven...

 

ZERO TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION.

In fact, much of what you shared happened before Trump had relationships with some of the targets.

/FAIL

You know what is a lock. We have the most corrupt DoJ / FBI ever with this group that is attacking Trump.

DoJ Fired/Resigned/Demoted

• John Carlin – Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division - Resigned - FISA Abuses
• Sally Yates – Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General - Fired
• Mary McCord – Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division - Resigned
• Bruce Ohr – Associate Deputy Attorney General - Demoted twice
• David Laufman – DOJ National Security Division, Deputy Asst. Attorney General - Resigned
• Rachel Brand – Associate Attorney General - Resigned

FBI Fired/Resigned/Demoted

• James Comey – FBI Director - Fired
• Peter Strzok – Deputy Assistant Director of FBI’s - Demoted / Fired
• Lisa Page – FBI/DOJ Lawyer - Demoted - Resigned
• James Baker – FBI General Counsel - Demoted - Reassigned
• James Rybicki – Chief of Staff to FBI Director - Demoted - Resigned
• Andrew McCabe – Deputy FBI Director - Fired - Charges Recommended
• Josh Campbell – Special Assistant to James Comey - Resigned
• Michael Kortan – FBI Asst. Director Public Affairs - Resigned
• Bill Priestap – Assistant Director – Head of FBI Counterintelligence - Resigned - *Is likely cooperating against the DoJ/FBI in investigations

Watch List

• Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) - Deputy Attorney General
• David Bowditch (FBI) – expected to replace Andrew McCabe as Deputy FBI Director
• Trisha Anderson (DOJ) – Adviser in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel
• Greg Brower (FBI) – Assistant Director for the Office of Congressional Affairs.
• Sally Moyer (FBI) – Attorney
• Dana Boente (DOJ/FBI) – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division
• Edward O’Callaghan (DOJ) – Acting Assistant Attorney General and Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

It's sad that some Leftists still don't get it.

If you get your news from a source that pushes 95%+ negative news on Trump, you may be brainwashed.

 

Yep. Most did some stupid unethical things.
But AFAIK, nothing criminal.
Unlike tRUMPs staffers.

 

If you get your news from a source that pushes less than 95% negative news on Trump, you only own an AM radio....

 

Which is precisely why an unverified and salacious dossier written by foreign national who the FBI terminated for lying and leaking to the press does not apply. Are you plant determined to make lefties look bad? You are doing a hell of a job. Lulz

 

You likely don't realize how damning that statement is for Leftists and Americans as a whole.

 

No, more like Cohen going to jail for lying for Trump.

 

I think you left something out.
Did it not fit your narrative?

It is up to one of the judges sitting on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to decide if the evidence meets the standard of probable cause that a surveillance target is acting as an agent of a foreign power.

Let us know when they hire you to make the decisions.
Until then, it's up to the FISA judge(s) to do it.

 

It didn't happen. I know it is the Trump way to just make stuff up, but that just didn't happen.

 

An interesting point. Does this mean the crimes charged are victimless crimes? Crimes against the state?

 

^ Deserves repeating, and not only that, but it was hitlery's campaign thru cutouts to Steele that COLLUDED WITH RUSSIANS on a dossier that STEELE has admitted under oath in a deposition that the claims made therein "aren't worth the paper they're printed on."
That falsified dossier appears to be strzok's "insurance policy."
Since mueller's dog weissmann was in the room when Ohr advised FBI/DOJ of the dossier's ambiguity, it's readily event the fraud perpetrated on the FIS court, and the American people.

 

It was not a crime to have contact with or do business with Russians. The Obama administration was urging it. What was the predicate CRIME? Podesta was up to his eyeballs dealing with Russians, the Clinton's were dealing with Russians. But then you knew that.