Teen killers who allegedly shot musician to be charged as adults

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Steve N, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. ArmySoldier

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    So the bad neighborhoods are only where the shootings are? Do you want to rethink that statement?
     
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    No need. That's not what I said. Read what I said, not what your bias is telling you I said.
     
  3. ArmySoldier

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    This is your direct quote:
    So by staying out of the bad neighborhoods (I would love for you to cite all of them by gun-deaths so we can verify your claims)

    There is no chance of gun deaths?
     
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    Go on, quote the rest of what I said--you know, the part about "not likely".
     
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    I also asked you to cite your claims about the bad neighborhoods/vs the city. Anything can constitute a "neighborhood".

    I'm asking you to be specific. Apparently you can issue travelers a travel warning that even Chicago cannot do...
     
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    I did cite them. You even commented that I posted the link--shame on you for not clicking. ;) Post #369 has the info.
     
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    Your link does not in any way prove your claim. Why don't you cite the text of your claim so I can then cite the FBI's Uniform Crime Report.

    Try not to deflect. Quote the text you claim to be referring.

    If that's something you feel is too difficult...no need to reply.

    You dug yourself quite a hole here.
     
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    Touché :)
     
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    Try again. Read the statistics. Most of those murdered are Blacks living in those areas indicated on the map. If you do a little more digging, you'll find those are high poverty areas with a lot of gang violence. So, unless you happen to live in or go sight seeing in one of those areas, you're not likely to get shot.
     
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    I merely asked for a simple citation. There's a quote feature on this forum for such a thing. You have once again failed to do so.

    I thank you for this.
     
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    I wish they took volunteers to act as executioner.

    But in reality, I don't think the execution of minors is allowed, even in states that have the death penalty. They'll serve a few years and be out in time for their senior prom. No one cares about white men. Society says the true victims here are the little thugs.
     
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    as I have mentioned numerous times I'm critizeing and voicing distain over a certain culture a culture members of a particular race cultivates and participates in
    If I was a racist like you assigned me as I would then feel that distain and criticism of that particular race in general all members of that race all walks of life from that race all over the word but I don't
    so my criticism and distain isn't about a particular race but a particular culture that many of that race belongs to
    but you don't want to see it as that instead you want to silence me by attempting to discredit me as a racist instead of acknowledging the true problem because by acknowledging that problem takes you down the road of realizing its you liberals agenda and philosophy was the root cause of that culture
    but its easier to scream racism then stick your fingers in your ears

    and lastly you still haven't answered my question about which house you would buy
    because if you answered truthfully you would expose your self as a racist using your definition of racism
     
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    Its time libs and conservatives made that clear to the authorities
     
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    and here lies the problem with that analogy
    one of the poorest states in the union is W. Virginia but also has one of the lowest crime rates
    and with that I will also add W. Virginia only has about a 3% black population
    so it isn't just poverty that causes a nigh crime rate something else must be a contributing factor
    no matter what excuses you try to use to explain why there is so much crime contributed to a particular race you cant get away from the fact there is something inherently wrong involving members of that particular race not the race as a whole but numerous members of that race which is a particular culture

    all races are equal but all cultures aren't
    and to ease your mind the white culture is inferior to other cultures as in Asian culture its why Asians excel in school on test and in college admissions because the Asian culture is superior to white culture
     
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    Oh geeze, it's kinda hard to miss.

    https://t.co/ydX6WizccL

    Democrat Representative Omar insists that American Jews are paying members of Congress to take a pro-Israel stance. Democrat Representative Omar specifically cites the actions of AIPAC and insists that it’s “about the Benjamins, baby,” those apparently being Franklin and Netanyahu.

    This is not Democrat Representative Omar’s first foray into anti-Semitic tropes; earlier, she accused Jews of “hypnotizing” the world on Israel’s behalf. Her colleague Democrat Representative Rashida Tlaib has joined Democrat Representative Omar in this anti-Semitic smear campaign, having accused Jewish Americans of having dual loyalties, calling to mind another ancient Jew-hating line of argument.

    The Jewish state divides the Democratic party: The majority of the American public is pro-Israel — but that average includes the 87 percent of Republicans who are pro-Israel and the 59 percent of independents who share that view, which is a minority position among Democrats, fewer than half of whom take a friendly view of the Jewish state. The Left more broadly is increasingly hostile not only to the government of the state of Israel but to Jews per se, and increasingly tolerant of overt anti-Semitism, as in the case of the organizers of the Women’s March and their embrace of Louis Farrakhan, whom even Barack Obama felt obliged to court.

    Saying "I only hate Jews as a national entity, not on a case-by-case basis!" Really doesn't quite cut the mustard.
     
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    He never brought up the race of the kids. Can't you even read the OP correctly?
     
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    He brought up race in the op.


    Go ahead. Deny it. Lol
     
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    Why would I deny it? He never brought up the race of the kids. You claimed he was obsessed with race and yet you can't even prove he mentioned the race of the very kids who were the subject of the story. Does it trouble you that your theory fell apart yet again?
     
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    If you get shot to death you won't die from cancer or have to spend time in a nursing home.
     
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    I think I understand what you're trying to say, but still, there are some issues with how you say it.

    First of all, the logic: If you say "Blacks" or "Whites," you say "all Blacks" and "all Whites" whether you intend to or not. A simple quantifier like some, many, most, etc., can change how people interpret the comment--but you still need to consider how it will be interpreted. This isn't an academic requirement, it's just an observation about how people understand language, and that's where all this started.

    When you say many of a particular race belong to "a certain culture," you suggest, intentionally or not, that the culture is not also part of all other cultures. It's a simple omission that makes a clear statement. By continuing to link the race to the sub-culture, you suggest that you see little to no difference. When you support that claim by falling back on other stereotypes about that race, you're going to get called a racist. Especially when you bring race into a non-racial event.

    Right from the beginning of this thread, race was injected as a way to complain about media coverage of another incident. The other incident involved overt racial aspects. The murder of a man by some kids was not a racial incident, but race was dragged into it. Most of the comments that followed in support of the OP were racially motivated.
    Again, intentionally or not, you create that us and them framework that gets you and the others labeled as racist.

    As far as the house, I'm not going to respond to a simple red herring kind of deflection.
     
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    West Virginia is largely rural, and the comments you're replying to had to do with urban, big city. Population density makes a really big difference.

    Also, the comment about the Black population there is suggesting that the more Blacks, the more crime. See why people say Whites are racist?


    Ok, so here you come right out and say that Black culture is the cause of high crime rates when you hold up the low population as a contributing factor. And if that's not bad enough, you go on to offer another stereotype about Asians and college admissions to show that Whites are what? Not intelligent?

    You're right to argue culture, but when you argue cultural stereotypes, you lose all legitimacy because you're just replacing race for culture.
     
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    That's AIPAC. Simply because AIPAC is a PAC that supports a certain agenda in Israeli government, it doesn't mean she is anti-Semitic. To be anti-Semitic, she'd have to hate all Jews, so hating the government policies that ghettoize Palestinians does not equal hating all Jews.

    I have nothing against Jews, but I'm against certain Israeli policies. I hate Netanyahu and I hate Trump. That doesn't make me anti-Semitic or anti-German.
     

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