"Russia to disconnect from the internet as part of a planned test"

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    "Russian authorities and major internet providers are planning to disconnect the country from the internet as part of a planned experiment, Russian news agency RosBiznesKonsalting (RBK) reported last week."

    "The reason for the experiment is to gather insight and provide feedback and modifications to a proposed law introduced in the Russian Parliament in December 2018."

    "Russian telecom firms would also have to install "technical means" to re-route all Russian internet traffic to exchange points approved or managed by Roskomnazor, Russia's telecom watchdog."

    "Roskomnazor will inspect the traffic to block prohibited content and make sure traffic between Russian users stays inside the country, and is not re-routed uselessly through servers abroad, where it could be intercepted."

    "The proposed law, fully endorsed by President Putin, is expected to pass"

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/russia-to-disconnect-from-the-internet-as-part-of-a-planned-test/

    Makes one wonder, given Trump's overt disdain for a free press, and labeling anything remotely critical of his Administration as "fake" and "dishonest," could we be looking at a similar process somewhere down the road in America?
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should probably be worried about the "free press" (owned by billionaires) attacking the alternative media. They proudly bear signs that state "Democracy Dies in Darkness" while actively attempting to shutdown voices with a different narrative (that have audiences that rival or surpass their own). Most Americans don't want billionaires or politicians curating their speech. Let the marketplace of ideas decide. The attacks by the left on that marketplace demonstrate a decided lack of confidence in their own ideas.
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Who, or where, did any vehicle in the free press even attempt to "shutdown voices with a different narrative?" Please cite examples
     
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    Ayuh,...... Obo's net neutrality,........ :rolleyes:
     
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    "Obo's net neutrality" specified Internet providers had to treat all traffic equally, with Trump's killing net neutrality, providers eventually will be able to slow down, charge extra, or even block websites and apps of their choosing
     
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    Surely you have heard of data and society. The mainstream media couldn't get enough of this "report". They are actively lobbying to get prominent conservative youtubers deplatformed. Do a google search on the "alternative influence network" and you will see the mainstream ganging up to silence conservative/libertarian outlets. This is not a secret, this has been going on for awhile now.

    https://datasociety.net/output/alternative-influence/
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...uence-network-breeds-rightwing-radicalisation
     
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    "Alernative Media" = Right Wing Trash Blogs

    As it stands now, there is Already WAY Too Much Unsourced RW BS making it"s way into the mainstream (from Deluded Tinfoil Hat Comedians like Alex Jones).

    As far as Russia?

    Putin wants to control the Russian Info Stream (just like he controls his Puppet--Lil Donnie Trump).
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Wait a minute, some study saying that select right wing sources are attempting to promote radical conservative causes as white nationalism is now proof that "mainstream ganging up to silence conservative/libertarian outlets?"
     
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    It constantly amazes me that the left no longer supports freedom of the press or free speech. Thank you for admitting this openly. If your side does win in allowing authoritarian censorship via billionaires/politicians, I hope you are self aware enough to realize that they will eventually come for people who express views that you agree with. That is what history demonstrates over and over again.
     
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    LOL, they listed Tim Pool in there. Tim Pool is a moderate liberal who reported on the Maga Kids debacle. His outlet got every detail of that incident correct DAYS before the mainstream media corrected their narrative. This is a single youtuber who reported factually true information days BEFORE the mainstream media (with its millions of dollars in resources) corrected theirs. In fact, it was the alt media calling the mainstream media on their lies that forced the retractions (although it did not stop the hate mobbing of some innocent kids). This is the guy that Media and Society smeared with a label in that report. Has it ever crossed your mind that the mainstream media is not 100% honest? That they may have their own agenda? That perhaps they see the alternative media and it swelling audience as a FINANCIAL threat to their business model? Why don't you visit each of the sites listed in the report and tell me how accurate the smear was.

    From my perspective, they were nothing more than smears aimed at shutting down a popular and growing competitor. A competitor whose narrative is controlled by thousands of ordinary people expressing their own opinion and not parroting the narrative of powerful oligarchical masters. Keep in mind, good progressive outlets like Secular Talk and Jimmy Dore are just as much at risk as the other ones. Any channel that points out that we live in a oligarchy with a curated press is at risk. Any channel that provides political content that contends with the mainstream media is also at risk. My advice to the mainstream media is to do MUCH better. They were not nearly this bad a few decades ago.

     
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    Oh well.

    I will take my chances.
     
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    liveleak.com is going to get boring. Where else can we go to get our 'Russian dashcam' fix?
     
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    It's fun watching attacks on the idea of a "free press." particularly attacks from RT and rusbots. :)
     
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    No kidding.
     
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    The Sedition Acts.
     
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    Likely not, given his love for tweeter. But certainly reminds me of the Dems push to have Facebook controlled
     
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    There is little doubt anymore that the majority of liberal media are not free press but the enemy of the people with an agenda, not to report news but to see conservatism fail.

    We need to take any steps necessary to stop them and their attack against freedom in the United States.
     
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    But, but..... where will the Democrats get their Russian facebook memes from now, telling them not to vote for Hillary???


    (Hi @HockeyDad, welcome!) :)
     
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    Mark Warner signed off on this...MSNBC and the dnc party is falling apart
     
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    Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR in war time
     
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    There is no doubt anymore that the all of the conservative fake alt right media are engaged in using their press as an enemy of the people with an agenda, not to report news but to see patriotic Americanism fail.

    Libel, slander, and sedition laws need to be stepped up against the alt right media.
     
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    Lol...Talking about fake news, the so-called alternative media is fed by russian propaganda and incites right-wing extremists who think that what they hear is true.
     
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    Lol, is that what your msnbc overlords tell you? Try stepping outside of your 24-7 trump bashing sources, and try getting a more open minded take on the world from multiple view points.
     
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    While the Russian government announces that it will conduct this exercise (I think it's a good idea), in this country some corporation will do that sooner or later, a potential demonstration of the fascist relationship in this country.
     
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    Got something that isn't two centuries old?
     

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