I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Protecting life is not misogamy, it would simply force mothers and father to do their job instead of getting rid of a life for their own convenience right before seeing the latest superhero movie. Honey the movie is at 6pm so we should have the abortion at 4 just to be safe.

its easier to attack the supply than the demand. Get rid of the supply and the demand will go away.

 

If by "Anti-Choice" you mean I oppose infanticide, then yes I'm "Anti-Choice" lol. Don't be obtuse, you know there are 3rd term abortion bills all the way up to birth now.

 

The word is "misogyny" and taking away women's right to their own bodies and treating them like livestock IS misogyny.

No, it wouldn't....you cannot FORCE people to be parents...how absurd to think so.

That's just such a stupid idea...

You STILL do NOT get it that abortion has been around for thousands of years and women have ALWAYS found a source...and ALWAYS WILL.


You did NOT refute ONE word of the following:

FoxHastings said: ↑
Ahh, here we go with the Anti-Choicers trying to make it look like they care about women, "Oh, we don't want them jailed, we love life and women, we just want them CONTROLLED and punished for having sex".

HOWEVER, IF a person hires a hitman to murder another person and that hitman is successful they are BOTH tried for murder.

If a woman hires a hitman (doctor) to "murder" her fetus , they should BOTH be charged

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Maybe YOU could be the ONLY Anti-Choicer who could show me EXACTLY WHERE in the law that is says ""let's murderous mothers kill viable babies up until birth """.

NO one has done that yet.....I wonder why?

And YOU couldn't address my post either

 

Its easier to find and convict a doctor than a woman, because proving they did the abortion is easier than proving it was an abortion

 

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Are you suggesting that HIPPA would protect the woman?

Not that I care - the idea of prosecuting doctors because the government doesn't like the woman's decision concerning here personal care hits me as disgusting.

 

Its to stop doctors from even offering the service. No HIPPA would not protect abortion records from public.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
HOWEVER, IF a person hires a hitman to murder another person and that hitman is successful they are BOTH tried for murder.

If a woman hires a hitman (doctor) to "murder" her fetus , they should BOTH be charged

So upholding laws should be based on how EASY it is? WTF! Hilarious!!!

I admire your creativity when faced with having no answers


Uh, DUH, how do you convict a doctor...do they walk around carrying signs that say,"" I performed an abortion" ??

Hilarious, the floundering and desperation...

 

Yet you think we can convict a man who slipped his girlfriend an abortion pill?

 

Well, duh, ya we can since what HE did was illegal and they had the evidence and the facts...

 

But it would be impossible to convict a woman of having an abortion, Lol. Fantastic logic. How can they prove it was not just miscarriage since they are the same. Must have aborted a lot of brain cells during your tenor as a fertile human pitching a tent outside an abortion center waiting for the Roe V Wade ruling then going in the second its announced saying I WANT TO EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO KILL MY OFFSPRING YIPPY

 

"A health care practitioner licensed, certified, or authorized under title eight of the education law, acting with in his or her lawful scope of practice, may perform an abortion when, according to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case: the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health." https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2019/S240

 

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It IS impossible to convict a woman of having an abortion.

THAT is what I have trying to tell YOU.

So WHY MAKE ABORTION ILLEGAL?

I LOVE CRAP LIKE THAT....IT SHOWS THAT ANTI-CHOICERS HAVE NO FACTS AND HAVE TO RSORT TO CHILDISH INSULTS....THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO IF THEY TRULY BELUIEVED THEY WERE RIGHT...


Also note that once again the "history challenged" think abortions started in 1974..


Can't they ever get ANYTHING right …??/LOL!

 

OK, what does the new law attempt to change ? ( since I didn't see anything new in that..)

 

The vagueness of the word "health" leaves the door open for interpretation and thus someone saying her "mental health" was at risk.

 

The word "health" has always been there....and professionals are allowed to determine that...just like professionals determine physical health.

Who do you want to determine a woman's health? YOU ??!!!!

 

How can you prove an abortion pill was snuck in but not prove an abortion was done. You can not have it both wise as the evidence would be the same.

Oh I know im right, I just am not the humble type of person. So I will go after my political opponents with verbal warfare.

Yeah the only times in the history books they talk about abortion is during the Eugenics. It was used as Eugenics by supporting abortion you support the forced sterilization of poor or permisquis women.

 

So you are okay with doctors using the mental health as an excuse for week 36 abortions nice to know.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
The word "health" has always been there....and professionals are allowed to determine that...just like professionals determine physical health.

Who do you want to determine a woman's health? YOU ??!!!!

Here ya go again. YOU HAVE NOTHING so MAKE UP something you claim I said..


And yet you don't seem to be able to address questions:

Who do you want to determine a woman's health? YOU ??!!!!



Why can't you answer that question?

Do you totally deny that there is such a thing as mental health ,mental diseases??


Really , Gee, that's just so ""back to the cave"

 

Doctors but I only want them using physical health for abortions not mental. Having a panic attack about giving birth and being a mother, force her into brith anyway at week 36 crying screaming, kicking. Should have thought about it sooner.

Its real but its not a justified reason to get an abortion. Let alone, chopping off the babies head as its coming out.

 

Well, isn't that just too bad for you....the rest of the world considers mental health as important as physical health.

NO one is chopping off heads as babies emerge....but emotional hyperbole sure doesn't help your argument at all ...keep it up...



Again:

Who do you want to determine a woman's health? YOU ??!!!!



Why can't you answer that question?

 

Well its literally not. Physical can kill, mental just only affects your preception.

You know what would help our side (democrats/liberals/progressives) taking a full prolife platform, appointing pro life justices (real ones not those who only want birth and no helping) and pass a prolife amendment into the constitution. The republicans would lose all their non racist/non rich base. Then we can get to the standard of living as Scandinavian with in a few years. We would 100% win every election for the rest of time against the Reds.

But no, abortion is more important then UHC, free college, jobs guarantee, paid leave, free food for school children for breakfast and dinner, ending the wars, ending the gun violence, living wage, longer life expectancy, clean environment stopping climate change, yeah abortion is the most important thing

 

Lots of physical diseases don't kill either....that does NOT mean they aren't diseases!

But please keep showing a complete lack of understanding of mental disease and mental health...

Uh, no, your side is NOT Democrat/liberal /progressives if you want to take away people's right to their own bodies.

YES, having the right to one's own body IS more important than all that.


Without freedom and liberty and the right to pursue happiness we have NOTHING.

To turn women into nothing more than livestock is heinous and only a coward would do that to further their agenda.

 

So if you could guarantee everything else you would not with out abortion rights? Wow

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
YES, having the right to one's own body IS more important than all that.


Without freedom and liberty and the right to pursue happiness we have NOTHING.

To turn women into nothing more than livestock is heinous and only a coward would do that to further their agenda.

Was that a sentence?

But, ya, I don't think Americans will stand for 51 % of the population losing the right to their own bodies to appease your Utopian fantasies..