Norwegian man sentenced to 6 years for giving girlfriend abortion pill laced smoothie

Yep and they can decide to have an abortion

 

In what way are women in every major country on earth .....dishonest. lol

 

For sure. But what's the pay off? Why are they doing it?

I can't figure that out. Or rather, the possibilities canvassed thus far are not pretty.

 

Does that apply to people that smoke? They chose to smoke.....they chose their lung cancer

 

So you agree that women have full and complete power over decisions pertaining to their bodies? Anything that happens to their body is their own informed, adult choice?

 

If terminating a fetus was a trivial little thing, this man should not be punished so severely.

 

Show me a 10 year old who doesn't know that smoking kills. Are you saying that smokers are dumber than 10 year olds?

 

Well if you get a tumor but did nothing to.make it happen...
That is hardly their choice....correct t?

 

So you want to deny smokers treatment for lung cancer.....yes?

 

Is that a yes, or a no?

 

In that case no. Do you agree?

 

So, are you saying that smokers are dumber than 10 year olds?

Yes, or no?

 

No.

Will you answer my questions as directly?

 

Thank you. So you don't believe women can have full autonomy over what happens with/to their bodies.

And who here thinks women DO have full autonomy? That would be me.

 

It's your turn to answer

 

In which case, they made the informed decision to smoke.

Do you want to cater for all First World bad decisions, when they go pear shaped (as they all inevitably do)? Someone has to pay for that kind of outrageous excess, and guess who that will be? The world is overflowing with people who made NO bad choices, yet are 'starving to death'. They are who will pay.

If you think that's fair, reasonable, compassionate, humane, or anything else virtuous, you exist in a moral state I don't recognise.

 

Can you answer the question directly please

 

Once again, this is nonsense for reasons previously stated many times.

Please pay attention. This is getting tiring.

 

Yes, it is nonsense. We agree on that much.

We can only hope that those who refuse women the agency to say "no" to things, will reconsider their sexism.

 

Yes. Hope is all you have. Lol

 

Don't try to be cute.

Your whole direction is oriented to denying women their rights to private healthcare decision making.

 

I have not, at ANY time in this thread, discussed healthcare. That is an outright falsehood.

This debate has been entirely on womens' autonomy to choose what happens to her body.

 

Don't use me to peddle your lying about women!!!!

 

kazenatsu said: ↑
Another way to state it:
Pro-choicers claim women shouldn't be forced to breed like animals, but at the same time there are pro-choicers who say women are animals and can't help themselves. (YES, there's actually been two choicers here in the past who have said humans are animals with animal instincts)

dairyair said: ↑
Human nature, as well as most every other living creature on earth has sex. It's inbred into the species, including humans."""""




WHERE IN THAT STATEMENT DOES THE WORD "ANIMAL" APPEAR?

NO WHERE.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Except you have NEVER NAMED NOR QUOTED ANYONE FOR SAYING THAT...

Who TF is "us" ? You seem to have a lot of imaginary people you converse with

WHY TF should I help you out of your predicament of making claims you have NEVER BACKED UP?????

Since you've already put so many words in my mouth that I NEVER said, why don't YOU answer for me...??