Boeing 737 Max 8 Ethiopia Airlines Crash

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    You provided the link, you answer it!
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the F-111 and the Brewster F-2A Buffalo.

    Ok, the Brewster F-2A Buffalo was a real joke and a real scandal

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  3. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already did by saying the TCAS doesn't tell pilots what not to do. TCAS tells pilots what they need to do to avoid a collision.
     
  4. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the WSJ the fix for the Max was delayed for 5 weeks due to Trump's government shutdown.

    The WSJ needs a subscription but here's the relevant bit:

    Had that fix been implemented in January it might have saved lives. Just one of many disadvantages of an incompetent President.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canada has now grounded Boeing 737 Max 8s based on information the MoT received this morning.
     
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  6. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you are saying that the link you provided contains lies?
     
  7. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't realize the government shutdown also shutdown Boeing? If the fix was already in Boeing didn't need the FAA to implement it.
     
  8. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I provided the link to start this conversation, not to defend it.
     
  9. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read the article.
     
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  10. truth and justice

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    I see that you are still running away from the fact that pilots reported that the plane went into automatic nosedive when autopilot was switched on.

    Oh, and as for your claim about "don't sink, don't siink", it is a common phrase:
    2012 : https://www.nzherald.co.nz/airports/news/article.cfm?c_id=114&objectid=10791681

    "An automatic cockpit alarm blared "don't sink, don't sink" as a Pacific Blue flight was leaving Queenstown, warning the crew of imminent danger."

    2007 Flight simulator https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/64020-sink-dont-sink-what-does-it-mean/

    2016 : "Cockpit warnings blared "Don't sink, don't sink!" as the engines began to throttle up.
    It was too late."

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/dont-sink-dont-sink-the-emirates-cockpit-warnings-blared-1455163
     
  11. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is nothing more than the liberal media attacking the Trump administration.
     
  12. Doug_yvr

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    Yes, the Wall Street Journal is so liberal!
     
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    First off auto pilots don't announce alerts. And they don't tell pilots what not to do. Here is a quick lesson on how TCAS works.

     
  14. truth and justice

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    More irrelevant stuff from you. No one said that the auto pilot gave the announcement. The autopilot put the plane into a nosedive. I see that you are still running away from the fact that pilots reported that the plane went into automatic nosedive when autopilot was switched on.
     
  15. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And as I pointed out earlier Boeing has a fix in for this issue. I'm not sure why it is taking them so long. Pilots can shutoff the AP if this error takes place. How difficult would that procedure be?
     
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    The lives of airline passengers are more important than burying your head in the sand like the FAA is doing. Some would argue this is payback for Boeing's futile attempt to sue Bombardier using their political connections in Washington. If so I say bravo Canada for pushing back.
     
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    The WSJ is a capitalist media and their interest in this story is purely economics. As in what would happen economically if one of the most popular commercial aircraft was grounded?
     
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    Why not let passengers decide for themselves if they want to fly on the 737 or not?
     
  19. truth and justice

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    So passengers will be told before booking what type of plane they will be flown in? If not, why not?
     
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    You are unbelievable in your defense of Boeing and the FAA. If the plane is in a nosedive, shutting off the AP will in many cases be too late! And as for this fix where is the evidence that a fix exists other than they say so. Pilots reported the bug and nothing was done
     
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    Back during the good old days pilots flew by the seat of their pants and weren't dependent on technology.

    There's another issue...
    Shithole airlines from shithole countries with shithole pilots in the cockpits of high end Boeing 737's.

    Shithole airlines should go back flying shithole Russian aircraft and nobody would raise an eyebrow when a Sukhoi Superjet 100 crashes.
     
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    Strange post, it assumes that because people get killed in car accidents it somehow makes taking a flight in a plane with a known fault that has resulting in hundreds of deaths is somehow nothing to worry about.
     
  23. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you haven't flown in a while? Yes, the aircraft type is provided at the time of booking. You usually have 24 hours to cancel a flight.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Life itself offers plenty of worries. There is always a certain amount of risk to everything we do. Even choosing to get out of bed every morning has it's risks.
     
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    I understand we have become a country of no can do, but if I'm Boeing CEO I'm saying piss on the FAA, go with the fix immediately.
     

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