Yes, but those who talk it are from the same locales. I do think they do cross locales however, so there will be differences. But a white person who has only been exposed to same language will certainly talk the same. How could they talk different. And blacks that haven't been exposed to it, sound like any other American that hasn't been exposed to it. They don't speak like that because of skin color, but because it's the language one grows up learning.
But it makes no difference what you learn growing up - at least in the home. Your accent is decided by REGION, not by culture or race. If Ebonics are spoken in the same region as non-Ebonics, then there is clearly a problem. It indicates wilful 'difference'. Even when your parents have strong foreign accents, or don't even speak English, if you're born here (America, UK, Australia or whatever), you will sound exactly like your white 'indigenous' neighbour. The only way that can be avoided is when there is a deliberate effort on the part of parents to teach their kids to avoid the local accent. THAT'S problematic.
In much of California speaking English without an accent is rare. Ever try to understand English spoken with a thick accent?
So all of those accented English speakers were born overseas? It cannot be possible otherwise. And ah .. yeah, I've 'tried to understand English spoken with a thick accent'. Unavoidable as a member of a migrant family from a non-English speaking background. Jeez Louise.
Define region. Say a city like Chicago. My guess is the black areas will speak ebonics and the white areas will speak upper midwest accent. But the inner city blacks will not have much contact with the white people in Chicago. An upper midwest person could travel to the deep south and not understand what some are saying, even though it is English. Just due to differences in accent and some words used.
Regional differences exist in all nations. The UK being the best (and most extreme) example of an English speaking nation with wildly different accents. Except that in any given region of the UK .. ALL will sound the same, regardless of ethnicity. Pakistanis, West Indians, Chinese, Indians, Polish, etc etc. In Glasgow they all sound the same. In Cornwall they all sound the same. In Dublin they all sound the same. It's really not possible to have different accents in a single city. Not with some very serious effort to remain separate.
I grew up in Chicago, far N.W. side. Lawrence and Elston. Chicago was the most segregated city I ever saw, and not just white and black. N.W. side was white, but we had Germantown, Scandanavia, little Italy, Jew town, etc. Near north, Humbolt park, was Puerto Rican. 34th, south, and Wentworth was China town. Blacks were west side, and South side. Whites didn't dare go down there. Even the police had to go in groups. And yes. ebonics was the language spoken. Also the n word, was spoken by some blacks with every other word they said. Other areas, you didn't say it at all. It's been years since I was there, but I look at our old neighborhood on Google earth,, and there are bars on the windows. Property going to hell.
It depends where you are... like I said, America is a big place. There are obviously divisive games being played in some places. Like this thread.
So were all these groups made up of people born overseas? Again, that's the only way such a thing can happen organically. If they WEREN'T born overseas, then this is deliberate segregation. Which is as said, horrifying.
I do think, ebonics is a deliberate effort to remain separate, having said all those other things. But again, if a white, asian, mid east decent, grew up in inner city Chicago, they'd use ebonics and not what us whites call normal English.
Segregate themselves? You think people only segregate themselves? Why, btw, is this thread no longer about the difficulty of texting punctuation? Gee....I wonder....
We have areas where there are such mixes, and everyone born here sounds the same. Only those born overseas retain any kind of difference. It's bred out in the first generation .. due to integration. Meantime yes, it would appear to be deliberate segregation. Do you not find that disturbing?
Yeah, there are places where people are very integrated. There are still accents and dialects in those places. It's not a bad thing. Most people aren't ignorant hateful paranoid racists. The only time I come across blatant disgusting racists are on boards like this.
Less urban, people sound more the same. Other than maxillofacial and other varying degrees of anatomical differences, it's hard to tell black from white in my small Southern city by speech alone. "Whachudurn?" "Fixin to go to Walmart, they got melons for $4." "Sheit." "Whachalldurn?" "Bout to get a fotey and pile up." "Aight." Could be said/heard from black/white just as easily. I myself talk like that many times a day. Not Asians though, no matter how long they live here, they almost never pick up the drawl and slang. Churchgoing folk of any race tend to speak better, Jesus apparently doesn't like drawling slang.
Well that's strange and hard to believe. Where I live, people of Asian background sound like people of any other background. This thread is absurd. It seems like an intentionally divisive load masquerading as someone wanting to learn about Ebonics. Yeah, right.
It’s racist because one asked this question of blacks. That would be like saying white guys, why do you enjoy serial killing and shooting up schools so often? While it’s an extreme example it’s in the same vein. I know several black people that are top tier in their professions and could run circles around the achievements of most people. There are many aspects of race relations, why many feel the system is out to get them and what can be done about it, why is black on black crime such an issue, how do we lower inner city crime, why are there such huge educational disparities between mainly black schools and mainly white school. One of those questions is not “why you talk so bad”. One is constructive while one isn’t. All this coming from an individual that thinks her whole way of life and religion is under assault while she attacks, mocks, and ridicules other groups. It’s disgusting and childish behavior. No “race card” needed.
