Boeing 737: Trump's government shutdown delayed fixes to airplane involved in multiple deadly crashe

And in the meantime, 350 others flew quite safely with no such problems. When you can tell me what the black boxes say, then give me more of that expert testimony.

 

How many flight hours is on the fleet of those types? And you do not know. The 737 type was introduced in 2011. All the Max amounts to is a somewhat modified version of the typical 737. I don't blame Trump is all. I attack Democrats almost entirely over their blatant rushes to create laws. As human beings, there are many nice and even religious democrats. Those types get attacked by other Democrats too. For being nice and religious.

First, are you a pilot? What actual expertise do you have about flying? I became a pilot in 1980 and studied safety issues over the years many times. We normally wait for the black boxes to be telling their story prior to just lashing out with the blame game.

 

Actually, the Democrats were just as much to blame for the shut-down as Trump was. They could have avoided it just as well as he could have. The Democrats stated many times that it was not about the amount of money he requested....and the requested money was going to the same thing that they once supported. That implies that the ONLY reason the did not approve the money was for political reasons. I'm not a big fan of Trumps, but I also dislike our politicians playing political games like this.....and have little patience for the fools that spin the narrative to booster their political stance.

If the shut-down was a contributing cause of the crashes in any way, then it is on the heads of both parties....and Boeing. More so on Boeing, as they must have felt there was potential for an issue if they are blaming the shut-down as a reason for that issue. Besides, the planes that did crash were not necessarily planes that would have been subject to US inspection.

 

If you are worried about flying, read this information.

https://onemileatatime.com/boeing-737-max-safe/

 

The shut down has nothing to do with Boeing's failed software

 

Uh, yes it is

 

Or Airbus maybe?

 

Whataboutism is always the cry when the premise of a thread is debunked.

 

All the flight testing took place in 2016, but don't let the facts get in the way of your meme.

 

WTF are you talking about? The logic of the argument is so gdamn simple even a trumper ought to be able to fully grasp it. IF the government shutdown caused a delay in Boeing rolling out a software update that may have saved the Ethiopia flight THEN it can be fairly said that trump did indeed play a role in the disaster. Period.

I read that the system in question was implemented because the new MAX 737's are more susceptible to stalls. If that's true I think I'd like to skip flights on the new aircraft even after the update.

 

Geez... This is just f***ing silly. Missing a problem during certification != not being able to push through a fix because the government is shutdown over a gdamn stupid useless wall!!

 

FYI, the bureaucracy reacts slowly. Always has and always will, as it's the nature of the beast.

 

Then the Democrats are just as culpable. They could have just as easily avoided the Government shutdown, but chose not to for political gain.

 

They don't care about border security, why should they care about aviation safety?

 

You would have a point if trump didn't literally say that he would own the shutdown.

 

Boeing is a private company.
Nothing about a gov shutdown caused them to do or not do anything

 

They are? Who knew? You're a gdamn genius sir!
Have you heard of the FAA and government regulation?

 

The FAA stopped them from fixing their software?
Do tell.

You're definitely not a genius

 

Sure....he said that. However, that does not excuse the responsibilities of others in the whole fiasco. If I talked you into robbing a bank with me and I admit that it was my idea and I had to try very hard to talk you into it, the police are not going to let you go.

 

Umm have you ever heard of a certification process? I may not be a genius but I appear to be a good deal smarter than you.

 

Pelosi and Shummer didn’t want the shutdown, trump said he’d own it. Checkmate.

 

TDS causes many to post bizarre stuff like that in the OP. It's just more comedy gold.

The fact those equally afflicted would lap it up should come as no surprise to any objective viewer.

 

Well, I'm sure you're smart in your own mind.

If there was known bad software, they were obligated to inform the operators of their product.
The crash has zero to do with Gov shut down

 

If a fix needed pushed through, they were obligated to inform customers of the danger.
Go back to sleep

 

Let's chat a bit about the two airplanes.

First the Lion aircraft flown out of Indonesia.

Read this and I shall comment below this comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Air_Flight_610

Bear in mind this is not blessed by an official agency. It can be 100 percent correct or have minor errors or gross errors. I don't know.

The first bold is in black. This addresses the claim it had the problem on earlier flights.

To help you understand, this is what happens when problems take place earlier.

The pilot must by regulation fill out a form. The form is handed to Maintenance. The form tells maintenance about all problems located by the pilot. Maintenance then uses the form to examine for all problems. And correct deficiencies. The pilot is not expected to fly the airplane until it is safe to fly. The pilot also inspects to see what Maintenance did. And the pilot has to agree in order to fly it.

Now why would an airplane as modern as that airplane suddenly do a deep nose dive into the earth or ocean? I need to see if the airplane in Ethiopia also had the problem. Also what about the rest of the fleet of over 350 airplanes? What are other pilots reporting?

I did notice the crater in Ethiopia. It is very deep. It looks as if the airplane was aimed directly into earth on a 90 degree angle. If we recall the crash at Shanksville, that crater was less deep and probably less steep.

The flight into the ocean lasted about 12 minutes vs 6 to 7 minutes in Africa. Both terminated extremely quickly.

They found the two black boxes in the ocean. What are those results? Compare those to the crash in Africa. This may explain what happened.

Trump did not cause it. We have not lost any airplanes at all yet. Grounded they can't crash.

I refuse to guess about the 737 systems. It might be connected to some sensors or perhaps due to autopilot. I just do not know.

Boeing alleges they sent to all customers instructions. They do not have enforcement capability though.