Mass shootings at New Zealand mosques kill 49

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    A much more interesting and relevant contrast is between NZ muslim immigration policy, and Australia's "Pacific Solution" policy.
     
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    You can "blame the NRA" if you need to. Their political lobby is quite effective, but it is still the prerogative of elected representatives to represent the People. When they kowtow to special interests and are re-elected by the People, the People have no one to blame but themselves.
     
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    As I correctly noted, New Zealand's firearm regulation is recognized as being quite permissive, especially in contrast to neighbouring Australia.
     
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    Yes, because the NRA has a ton of pull in New Zealand’s parliament. You folks aren’t even trying to make any sense anymore.
     
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    How is severely limiting access to semi automatic weapons, and handguns permissive?
     
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    He did both in his message essentially Trump a stupid leader but a great spokesman for white people's cause.
     
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    Can you provide that quote and a link?
     
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    You clearly have your prejudices, and must contrive rationales for them, including blaming the victims, apparently.

    That is unfortunate.
     
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    New Zealand's firearm regulation is recognized as being quite permissive, especially in contrast to neighbouring Australia.

    You can fixate on guns if you need to, but it is the hatred of right-wing supremacists that dictates their use in horrific massacres such as this.
     
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    I'm sorry for our friends here from there. It's a tragedy that should never happened anywhere. Sadly we live in a world where a few fanatics are encouraged by their leadership that such acts are justified in the end.
    Someday I hope that the leaders of the world stop pandering to these very vocal minorities and universally, without reservation, condemn these activities for what they are whether committed by Muslim extremists, christian extremists or white supremacists. There are no such things as some good people in those groups.
     
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    The fact that your post has only earned a like from "AltLightPride" should raise alarm bells.
     
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    I don’t think you know what the word permissive means.
     
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    Post #22
     
  14. PrincipleInvestment

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    WTF are you talking about? Australia as you point out has stricter gun laws. Australia also has stricter muslim immigration laws. Prejudice against NZ more tolerant policies, or Australia's more authoritarian? Your post makes less than zero sense. Victim blaming? What a load of [insert insult] ...
     
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    Yeah, I could care less who likes my comment. That doesn’t make my observation any less true. The fact that you have to point out something so irrelevant, should set off your own alarm bells.
     
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    Page 2 of this thread
     
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    Thanks...so he is a socialist too...now wonder he doesn’t like Trump
     
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    Unless and until someone invents a time machine, the notion that "X law would/would not have stopped Y event" is intellectually worthless.

    Any laws proposed in reaction to an event are aimed at, and justified by, making a future event less likely to occur.
     
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    Well naturally. What's really interesting in this thread, however, is that lunatic leftists are somehow blaming Trump and the NRA -- both of the U.S.A. mind you -- for what happened in New Zealand. TDR is STRONG in leftist world.
     
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    Err you do realize that the shooter was Australian?
     
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    I'm guessing Ilhan Omar won't be making excuses for this terrorist like she does for the ones in ISIS.
     
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    No time machine required. No law was going to deter these terrorists. It's a real no brainer.
     
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    The gunman planned this 2 years ago before Trump became president. The only one at blame here is the gunman.
     
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    You have no way of knowing that statement to be accurate, regardless of whether you have a brain or not.

    As I said, any proposed legislation offered in response to this act is because it is being offered with the intent of making the next less likely to occur.
     
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    And you will embrace it because it diverts from the hatred and violence from the White Supremacist here.
     
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