Colorado Joins 11 States Agreeing to Shift to Popular Vote System

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  1. Mac-7

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    The Constitution that contains the Bill of Rights also specifies two senators per state and the electoral college
     
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    I think he is only interesting in the parts of the Bill of Rights that he likes.
     
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    The Bill Of Rights were amendments to the US Constitution. There have been several other amendments over the years. The part of the Constitution which specifies that each state has two Senators was written when there were 13 distinct revolutionary colonies coming together for the first time. These are different times which call for different systems.
     
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    No it doesn't. The purpose of the Senators was not to represent The People. That is what the Representatives are for. The purpose of the Senators was to represent the States equally, independent of population. There is also a reason why there are 2 and not just 1.
     
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    In spite of the rush of new voters who were brainwashed into loving socislism it will be very difficult to amend the constitution in ways you are promoting
     
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    The way the Senate has morphed into a ultra political body over the years is also not was envisioned by the authors of the Constitution. If we are to let the Senate be in total control of high federal judicial appointments then there should be equity in how these Senators are chosen.
     
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    I completely disagree. The Senate has always been a ultra political body....from day 1. What you are proposing is not just some minor amendments to our Constitution, you are proposing a completely different governing system....and a dissolving of our "Union" system to some extent. While our current system does and always has had it's flaws, it works quite well and will likely NEVER be changed as you propose.
     
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    Voters are voters. As long as they are qualified to vote under the often amended US Constitution (originally only white, male land owners could vote) their vote should count equally in any election which elects people to office that represent all of America. It has nothing to do with what their political views are.
     
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    The political views of new voters matters a great deal

    And yes many of them are clueless snowflsves who think socialism is a good odea

    So the future for America is in doubt
     
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    The glaring fact that our population centers are over taxed and under represented is becoming clearer every day to educated Americans. Most of us know basic math and we know when we are being cheated. Our revolution in 1776 was fought over the basic grievance regarding taxation without representation. As one of the 60%+ Americans who lives in a State which is a major population center, I feel that I am not receiving proper representation regarding the Federal Government while being overtaxed.
     
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    Then take your grievance to court.....oh, and good luck with that. Also, good luck with those proposes to the Constitution.
     
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    What do you suggest? Giving people a test regarding their political views so that only those you agree with can vote....Come on man!!!
     
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    That’s what the filthy Red Coats said to Nathan Hale, Patrick Henry and Ben Franklin....
     
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    So....you are wanting to change a system....that was created to represent The People and the States in the best possible method.....and your best example is to compare your "lack of representation" to the people that actually created that system.

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    I think we need to improve education before we become venezuela
     
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    I don’t have any cats but my dogs know that what you are selling is pure bullshit.
     
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    Then why don’t all of you noble brainiacs who are so politically estate become teachers instead of always railing to break their unions and cut their pay?
     
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    So, it is bullshit to support a system that was designed to protect The People from people with your mindset that believe in mob rule? I am not surprised.
     
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    Regardless of what it was designed to do 250 years ago, at the present time it is not working out for the majority of people. Those of us who live in population centers (most Americans) are being grossly under represented as political charletons have learned how to game the system over the years. As a result, rich corporations and billionaires have figured out how to buy a bunch of cheap Senate seats to assure that they can continue to bilk the public.
     
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    The policy is antiquated and even has roots in the history of slaveholders. No other nation subscribes to this archaic bull-****. One person...One vote...period!
     
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    "one person - one vote". That is exactly what we have. Anything on the State level is decided by the popular votes of those voters within the State. Anything on the Federal Level is decided by 2 Senators from each State that vote on behalf of the States (not the people, but The States) and a number of Representatives proportional to that State's population. The President is selected by the States after the voters of each State decide which candidate to place their number of allotted votes toward....except for some States that have decided to place their allotments towards the candidate the nation voted for no matter how the voters in their State votes.

    Don't they teach the reason WHY the system is the way it is in Civics classes anymore????? The system created had absolutely nothing to do with slaveholders and I don't even understand where you came up with that. I guess it is becoming the norm that if there is something some people do not like, they will go to great lengths to link it racism.
     
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    How many (D) presidents have been selected under the archaic bull-**** you suddendly despise? In 1969 the (D) House majority passed an H.R. to eliminate the electoral college. That bill was rejected by the (D) Senate majority. Nixon was president.
     
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    All that and nothing of actual facts and to top it off you deny undeniable truths...
     
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    That's horrible! However, it IS Oklahoma after all, home of Scott Pruitt so while it may be absolutely horrible, it is not all that surprising.
     
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    Why won't it end well? What is going to happen if Dems "keep pushing this"? What if a majority of the states decide that they don't want the EC?
     
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