I don't like the part where you go into problem with a preconceived outcome and then when you get it wrong you go back to find an explanation as to why you were wrong and then come up with new formulas and hypothesis to find a simplistic answer to a question that has thousands of variables which then explains why you were actually right to begin with and explain why in the future you will also be right.
You will want to note that at no time did climate scientists every say "Every glacier must retreat every year". That's solely your weird strawman, based entirely on your preconceived religious notions. Now that you've been corrected, will you change your preconceived view to a fact-based view, or will you stubbornly cling to your preconceived view and continue to repeat the same nonsense, with the full knowledge that it is nonsense?
So, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, populated portions of Texas - THOSE states are progressive??
That's EXACTLY what we need to have happen. Well, with one exception being that one should always have concerns when only one independent group is producing the result. Science ALWAYS is better when there are multiple unrelated groups pounding on a problem, repeating experiments, etc. What's the alternative? In this case, people did measurements. Those results didn't look right to someone else, so they went out to check - and verified that the measurements were right!! Surely you can't complain about that! They then took it a step further, as significant questions remained. Since it's public and anyone can check it out, one would hope that others will hammer on this issue, too. If one of these groups was found to be putting their thumb on the scale, they would be fresh out of work as scientists, by the way. I do not know of a better approach.
I would have a problem with that too Which is why I am glad that is NOT the way science works and definitely not the way climate science works
I might have an ocean front property being about a mile inland at an elevation of 65'. BRING IT ON! Imagine: After The Great Melt
The only people with preconceived religious notion is the church of liberalism of which "climate change" is part of the religious dogma. If you want to talk about facts, the fact is climate change is not an existential threat. Climate change is natural and cyclical. The primary driver of climate change is the Milankovitch Cycles. Now that you've been corrected perhaps you can dispense with the snide arrogant superiority complex.
The problem isn't the incorrect, unreliable forecasts they make, the problem is they are using science to promote a political agenda by pushing a theory that is unsupportable. There is a grab for power by far left socialists and the climate change crisis is being used by them to grab power and install a socialist government.
Well according to the alarmists, there is a 97% consensus that man is causing climate change. Science has apparently given up on skepticism and objectivity.
The public is being manipulated. The climate change hoax is being sold to a bunch of gullible leftists who will believe whatever suits their bias. Just like the Russian collusion hoax.
I've been contemplating my long term real estate strategy. Knowing that all the ice is going to melt, I should a) start buying up farm land along the Mississippi river valley, b) continue to enjoy the view from my place in the Malibu hills.... c) nothing. We couldn't begin to understand the global climactic consequences of that. or d) buy a fleet of diesel Class A trucking to accelerate the windfalls of my choice in A.... e) a combination of all of the above....
Demonstrably untrue, being that we get the science right, while you always faceplant. And as the science doesn't say otherwise, you shouldn't lie about the science. Which in no way prevents humans from changing climate. The earth is warming rapidly, but those Milankovitch Cycles say the earth should be slowly cooling right now. As the current behavior is the opposite of the natural cycle, that conclusively proves your "It's a natural cycle!" theory is bunk. The evidence says your theory is wrong, therefore your theory is wrong. It's your fault. After we observe, time after time, the perfect record of abject failure by every denier, it's impossible for us to not develop a superiority complex. I feel intellectually superior to chimps and deniers, for the same reasons. Notice how we talk about the science instead of political conspiracy theories? That's because we can, because all the science backs us up. All of the science contradicts you, so you need to deflect by crying about politics. This is entirely about politics for you. Every denier is part of the right-wing-extremist political cult. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly vanish along with it, because denialism is entirely politics. In stark contrast, this is entirely about science for us. That's why AGW theory crosses all political boundaries all across the world. If left-wing politics vanished, the science of gravity wouldn't change at all, and climate science also wouldn't change at all, for the same reasons.
The Milankovitch Cycles are known and understood for nearly 100 years. You aren't getting the science right, you're fear mongering and attempting to cause a public panic. I just saw some prominent Democrat politicians making that exact claim. AOC and Camel Harris. If true. It's almost impossible to separate natural caused warming from human caused. And let's not pretend it's "climate change", it's global warming. Changing the labels because the globe isn't warming isn't fooling anyone. Then why did the label get changed from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"? Such a bunch of bunk.First we all know the crap about the world temperatures are rising is crap science. The fudges the numbers to support their theories, or haven't you heard? The Earth is not warming rapidly. Funny how the US had such record cold temperatures this winter and then they come out with the false claim that it was the 4th warmest year. Absolute BS. The Milankovitch cycles don't work on terms of decades. That's called weather. Climate is on a scales of millenniums. You don't take temperatures for the past 50 years and say "Climate Change"! There's so much antisemitic and out right Nazi propaganda in that one paragraph. Yikes! The term "denier" as opposed to skeptic is insulting to Jews, because it is meant to smear opponents as Nazis (Holocaust deniers). Then to claim to be superior? Dehumanizing people? Chimpanzees? This is what the Nazis did to Jews. Really careless use of language. I'm not saying you're a Nazi, just that you need to be more selective with your words. Maybe you never heard of the Green New Deal? This is the extremists wet dream of socialist ideological take over under the guise of protecting the environment If the globe gets warmer, that would be better for mankind and life on Earth. More CO2 is better for life on Earth. But in spite of us increasing the CO2, that won't stop the inevitable shifting of earth's obliquity and the inevitable March of ice from the North Pole which will cover nearly half of North America. The only reason it's political is because politicians are attempting to take over our democracy and insert a socialist dictatorship. Not going to happen! Actually it doesn't. Many Russian scientists don't believe in this bs because they already have a socialist dictatorship and don't need this stupid theory to take over their country. If the science is what you're all about, why do you so easily discount the known primary driver of climate change, the Milankovitch Cycles?
Your "argument" would apply to ANYTHING that ANYONE agreed on. You and I could agree on a conclusion that the sky looks blue and someone could come along and suggest we have "apparently given up on all skepticism and objectivity."
So, YOU know better that climatologists from around the world? You say it's understood for nearly 100 years, but you think climatologists are ignorant of this phenomenon? That is on the solution side, not on the problem side. Solutions are political. One hopes they are informed by science. The fact that there are solutions you don't like is NOT an excuse for suggesting the science is wrong. AOC is not a scientist. Al Gore is not a scientist. If you want science, you need to consult scientists - NOT politicians. Mankind is not prepared for an earth of a different temperature. Any claim that we would be better off at some other temperature is nonsense. Now, you're back to claiming that scientists all forgot about this favorite topic of yours!!! AND, you're claiming a world wide conspiracy theory that covers numerous branches of science as well as politics in every country. You simply can not defend a conspiracy of the magnitude that you propose.
And it would apply to scientists if it weren't another lie by the media. There is no scientific consensus on global warming.
There are many different related scientific fields. They understand that the "Climatologists", a made up science, are just using their extremist claims to get billions in government funding. Geologists, astronomers, physicists, heliologists, glaciologists, mathematicians, statisticians, computer scientists, oceanographers, paleontologists, archaeologists, chemists, why are these sciences ignored? Why not do an actual SCIENTIFIC SURVEY OF ALL SCIENTISTS?
Mankind is highly intelligent. The most highly intelligent species perhaps in the Universe. We are the most highly adaptable species of all time because of our intelligence. The dinosaurs thrived for millions of years on a planet that was much warmer and had more CO2 than present day. FACTS!
You can certainly find a variety of opinion on many aspects of climatology - it's a huge, multi-disciplinary field. But, there is agreement that Earth is warming due to human activity.
