I love how the party of Benghazi-gate and birtherism has the nerve to call the dems paranoid

I have said countless times that I doubt any collusion happened (though I have often mused about how hilarious it would be if a golden showers video surfaced). Russia is too smart to let Trump in on the fact that they were helping him. They wanted him to have complete deniability. Even if Trump isn't an asset, it was enough for Russia to get an idiot in charge of its biggest geopolitical rival.

That said, it absolutely amazes me that the party that brought us Benghazi-gate and Birtherism has the nerve to complain that the dems demanded an investigation into Trump's ties with Russia, particularly when Trump has repeatedly lied about nearly everything.

 

Okay, well... that does sound kinda paranoid without something to validate such a claim.

 

How did Russia help Trump?

 

Maybe you guys missed when most if not all of the intelligence community agreed that Russia helped Trump.

 

Man I sure trust those intell guys, after running torture programs, spying on Americans, lying about WMDs, and being all around shady since the beginning of the Cold War.

 

Okay, so how did we get where we're at now... with no proof of collusion? Your assertion is that Russia was so stealth that no connection could be made. What's your source?

 

Yet you enjoy the safety they provide. Odd.

 

By making the world a unsafe place, they’re providing me safety. Odd line of reasoning you got going on. Shill much?

 

First, you can't have it both ways. You can't go around saying collusion isn't a crime and then rejoice when, while there was collusion (there is no doubt), it couldn't be proven (in court) that there was a conspiracy against the US. If there was no collusion.....what was all the lying about?
Wait, I forgot, the lying is because this administration has no clue, again, NO CLUE, what it's doing. There is no policy, plan.....nothing.

 

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain how our intelligence agencies make the world an unsafe place.
And you call MY reasoning odd.

 

Trump would give Satan a blowjob if Satan would let Trump build a hotel in Hell..

 

Iraq, Syria, Libya ring a bell?
Hell, I got all night there’s a long list of misdeeds. Wanna start with election interference in other countries, overthrowing elected democratic governments, installing dictators, lying America in wars?
Just let me know.

 

Some evidence of... whatever it is you're trying to say here?

 

I'm just waiting for an example of how they make us unsafe.

 

What part are you having a problem with. Grammer? Spelling? I think I was pretty clear.

 

Kinda laid out a whole list of examples how destabilizing regions around the world makes all less safe. But keep being obtuse if that’s what you’re into.

 

You're saying there's no doubt there was collusion.

 

Bear in mind, it was the Obama intelligence making that claim.

 

Those men worked for Obama. Recall what Obama declared? How he shot Trump down who alleged the election might get rigged? And OBama shot down that idea. Remember?

 

You do understand the significant difference between Trump working with the Russians to get elected (i.e., collusion) and the Russians acting on their own to get him elected without even telling him about it, right? Do you really have to explain this to you again?

 

So what do you think of our current Secretary of State, who concurred with the consensus of the intelligence community?

 

False. It was Trump's own intelligence officials. Mike Pompeo concurred. He was the director of the CIA at the time.

 

Folks, learn that the word false in no way is a rebuttal. And Obama was president the day of the intelligence report made public on January 6, 2017. Trump was still in transition.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

 

You can argue your point all you want, but what good is it without solid evidence?

 

Trump's own people concurred with the assessment, including Mike Pompeo and John Bolton. Your claim that it was only Obama's people is false.