Children ripped away from parents in Germany for the crime of homeschooling.

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    I think we all can agree that Germany is so autistic, it can't change its laws even if its life depended on it.

    Legally, Germany can't even leave the EU, which means they've welded themselves to the battleship and can't get out.
     
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    I think we can agree that there still is an "Anti German" bullshit bahvior milling around to criticize and blame Germany as much as possible ... and at all always with the Nazis at least.

    So ....

    $1 - Germans are evil in general
    $2 - If by chance not, then automatically §1 is in charge!

    Because you have not even a clue about the EU, but you blame them of course ... you do the same here again with my country! Aside fact, that we constantly change laws by the same machanism as your country does, tell me ... why shall we change a good law as this, simply because somw idiiots with no knowledge about think it is bad?
    And if you would have read what I wrote ... anyone is in my country free to make against an existing law lawsuit to the competent court up to the highest ... and o wonders ... even go to the European Court of Justice as for an EU member of highest authority for that!

    Butr I know ... EU Court is higher as national court ... how evil is that? Right?
     
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    I'm from the UK, what do you mean I have no clue on how the EU works.
    Did UK not pay for all that infrastructure in Spain to get Spain up to standard?
    Did the UK not pay for East Germany to get Germany up to standard?
    And why does a trade deal need a high court?
    There are 28 countries in the EU and 1 of them is about to leave.
     
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    Spain, Franco, gave the world Latin American dictators and helped the Nazis escape after WWII.
    Good luck in an EU without UK, EU will have to find another market to sell to in the event of a UK US trade deal.
     
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    And why then these stupid claims and blames against the EU again and again, which are everything not true?

    Yes ... and most others did too and some did pay more as you did!

    And Germany financed you too in reverse very much ... or from whom comes most of these 8 billion Euro you get from Brussels every year at least, eh?

    Ehm ... trade deal is here not the topic ... sorry, failed!

    Yes ... and hopefully at best yesterday left instead tomorrow or next week! But these 1 country has many morons who have no clue about the EU and what a No Deal means for them.[/QUOTE]
     
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    You financed us with our own money.
     
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    How is that?
     
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    This joke is good ... who financed your down lying industry and helped you in the deep economic crises in the 1980's again, eh? Who was the payer here, eh? Learn facts, accept them and stop blabbering rubish!
     
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    "ABOUT to leave?" Is that not wishful thinking?
     
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    Yeah, whilst I wasn't in school, I was standing behind the head of local government (the people who should care) promoting local business.
    It just organically came together though and wasn't state forced or anything, this is Britain, not Germany.
     
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    I hear the PM might be replaced by a PM who will deliver Brexit if she makes a wrong move.

    She can ask for what she wants, the EU may even give her what they want, but her own party won't put up with what it doesn't want.

    I've known this for a few weeks now.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-could-pass-motions-calling-theresa-may-quit/
     
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    So thanks to the UK, Spain and Germany are up to standard? OMG, what painfull and out of touch with reality nonsense. What's next, public transport in these countries is only good because London paid for it, education is only affordable because London paid for it, health care is good because London paid for it, and electricity is quite expensive because London didn't pay for it, I guess (?). Someone is indeed autistic, but it's certainly not a country.
     
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    Of course, I can go to a road in a Spain (any road) and treat it like it's something I paid for, because it is.

    Remember, this is the UK we're talking about, not Ireland or Spain, but UK, the country that bank rolled the EU.
     
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    Nope, parents don't know.
     
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    That is truly funny.
     
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    Every law does.
     
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    Sure, but if it wasn't compulsory, wouldn't you have gone to school anyway?
     
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    Don't know what?
     
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    What about business law? Are those laws at the expense of personal freedom?
     
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    How am I putting words in your mouth? I asked you a question. The question was "are you saying that it doesn't allow for Homeschooling?" How the hell can a question be putting words in someone's mouth? As you know, the declaration says, "Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children." So how in the hell can't homeschooling be considered a "kind of education?"

    Oh i'm sure that people know that it's not allowed, but would the punishment of having your kids being taken away be "extremely common knowledge?"

    Do you live in Germany?

    I'm Australian! :roflol: I just LOVE how you assumed and were hoping that you were correct and that I would be impressed at your secretive "means" of finding out! Well done!

    I'm saying stuff LIKE this! Are you saying that there is no other type of gender rubbish in schools? And the fact that this got as close as it did, would concern some parents. Are you saying that there is no chance that it will be accepted into the school system in the future? When things have gone even FURTHER to the WACKY left?

    And what if parents consider that to be too young for their kids to be learning about sex and they want to teach it in their own time?
     
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    And after a "call to fight against this constituion" then what do you think would happen?
     
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    So your argument is that it is the law? Don't you have your own personal opinion? Do you know how the government justifies this law? Do you want to try again? Why is this rationale for homeschooling void exactly?

    I agree.

    So they are BAD parents?

    Again, your argument is that it is the law? Do you want to try again? If parents teach the standard-compliant syllabus to the child, then why don't YOU THINK they can homeschool?

    Why are they rubbish? Do you agree with this stuff being taught in school?
     
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    I know what you want to get out of ...

    Of course it depends on whether "people" feel called to do this because of this call ... of course!

    But ... question for you:

    Who has more guilt: the one who calls for another person to be murdered ... or the one who commits the murder because of the call?

    This is not an idiosyncratic or theoretically reality ... maybe you remember the "fatwa" ... that's a murder call to all Muslims ... those once 30 years or so from Khomeini in Iran against the Indian-British journalist and writer Salman Rushdie was pronounced because he had insulted Islam with Senem's work "The Satanic Verses".
    Salman Rushdie is still alive, but suppose a Muslim hated him for murdering him. Would Khomeini have been guilty?
     
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    I have of course an own opinion, but law is law and what is there to discuss about, because you have to follow the law - Point!
    And

    I agree.with this law and I named enoough reasons in my answers before, why I think the law is correct!



    {QUOTE]So they are BAD parents?[/QUOTE]

    Yes ... without any question and I still explained why!



    Aside point that I still named enough examples why it is bad ... again: Is it by law not allowed and will earn bad consequences? Yes! What is there to argue about more?
    I still told that any citizen has the right to make a lawsuuit by court against any law if the person thinks it is a bad law. But to say "bad law, I do not follow" is a crime - point!


    Look at the reasons they named why they want to make homeschooling and you have your answer ;-)
     
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    Who? These German parents?
     

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