New York Times: Trump’s Immigration Policy Wins Black Votes

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most illegals came here legally, Trump is doing nothing to stop that

    Trump wants a vanity wall he can call the 'Trump' wall, he could care less about illegal immigration

    you want to really reduce illegals, you have to go after those that hire them, mandatory 10 year sentences, like Trump's businesses
     
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  2. The Mello Guy

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    So when trump ships illegals to Miami will that help him win Florida?
     
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    Black Republican barely represent 10% of their community. :roll: But if Trump wants Black support [which he does not want] then I suggest he hold a town hall or gathering in Los Angeles/ Chicago/ NYC etc and honestly respond to questions from Blacks/ Hispanics/ Asians/ LBGTQ/ students. Wishful/ delusional Trumped Republicans think Blacks will join the GOP. Get real. It seems that there is no Republican constituency other than White/ Evangelical/ rural nationalists.

    How is this statement from Charles Blow encouraging to Republicans?

    "Democrats must attack the issue of black and Hispanic voters head-on and not as an afterthought. They can’t go into 2020 thinking that the surge in voter turnout in the midterms is a ward against Trump holding the numbers of blacks and Hispanics he held in 2016. During the midterms, 9 percent of blacks and 29 percent of Hispanics voted for Republicans, in line with Trump’s 2016 results.

    White supremacy will use any tool at its disposal to survive.

    Frederick Douglass wrote in “My Bondage and My Freedom” that slave owners would often grant the enslaved relief from work during the Christmas holidays. But they would also encourage drunkenness and lasciviousness, and frown upon any slave who tried to put the time to productive use. This was psychological warfare.

    As Douglass put it: “All the license allowed, appears to have no other object than to disgust the slaves with their temporary freedom, and to make them as glad to return to their work, as they were to leave it.”

    If white supremacy will use celebration to disgust, it will most definitely use desperation to divide".


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
     
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  4. Josh77

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    I'm all for going after employers... in addition to the wall.
     
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    I just reread it. I don't see anything supporting your claim.
     
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    I don't think he will do it. He uses these moments to send the liberal media into their standard frenzy.
     
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    This right here. Exactly!
     
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    Of course he wont. And now we’ve got all these righties looking like idiots for abandoning their principles for something trump was never going to do lol
     
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    Abandoning principles? You don't have the first clue of republican principles.
     
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    Why do you call it "dumping"?
     
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    It's funny.

    While it can be debated it's generally assumed that the first person to fall during the American Revolution was Crispis Attucks.

    A free black man who stood up to the British.

    It's ironic when you think that with all the stuff done to blacks that they were their in line to defend this nation of ours.

    He, along with five other patriots, started the Boston Massacre which led to our revolution and ultimately our freedom.
     
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    Good point and wasn't it Pelosi that called these illegals "Bundles of love" or something? Why wouldn't she want them in her city? She loves them so much, it seems insulting to say she doesn't want them.
     
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    Thats happened here in California years ago.

    When I was growing up, rappers were from Long Beach, Compton, Watts, Carson city. (South central LA)

    Now the blacks in those cities have been largely replaced by recent immigrants.

    Many of those immigrants will work cheaper both under the table, and in the low skilled job market. They will also live 10 to a room, and send money back home to bring more here.

    Their children go to the local schools. They clog the local hospitals. And despite what you may have heard there is violence as well.

    They also consume welfare resources.

    And its not PC to say, but there is very striking racism in latin America.
     
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    There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Only illegals don't care about the law. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, and use the superior economic resources of State Capitalism to out-compete black markets.
     
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    What would you call it?
     
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    Why would you refer to black Americans as bootlickers? Don't you support the African-American community?
     
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    Giving people what they say they want.

    I notice you didn't answer the question.
     
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    Miami is already nearly 2/3 Hispanic/Latino (and only 15% white) so who knows the political fallout.....

    Miami already has the 2nd lowest median household income in the US (others in the top 5 are Riverside CA, San Antonia, Phoenix, and Los Angeles, go figure.....) 15% of people in Miami live below the poverty line. Miami-Dade County already has 25% of residents receiving food stamps (vs the national average of 13%, and the overall Florida average of 14%) with 30% of Hispanics and 35% of blacks receiving food stamps.

    It is no surprise Florida is a "purple" state when it comes to voting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County,_Florida#Demographics
    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...avi-ortiz-for-2019-ultra-performance-11145232

    https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Florida/Miami-Dade-County/Food-Stamps
     
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    Who is your leader?
     
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    I'd call it ironic.
     
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    If blacks want less illegal immigration, would sending illegals to Florida win black votes or lose them?
     
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    During the Cold War liberals were referred to as "Kremlin boot lickers" but Moscow just called them "Useful idiots of the Kremlin."
     
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    Socialism is about equality. We should have no illegal problem simply because we have no express immigration clause. Our welfare clause is General and we do have an, Commerce Clause express.
     
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    Sounds like he's trying to scare blacks with comments associating Trump and slavery.

    Thats nothing new from Democrats, like this current democrat presidential candidate...

     
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    We have a Constitution, for a reason.
     

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