I'm sorry for your loss.

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't imagine how hard it was to abort your beautiful child who would have grown up to possibly do wonderous things.

    Who would have loved you as their mommy, who you would have protected and loved back.

    When they scraped their knee and you knew how to fix it with a kiss, the first time they ride a bike, when they go on that first date and you are so worried about it.

    I'm sorry, it must have been a horrible decision to make to end their life.

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    If God cared about fetuses, every uterus would be perfect, every fertilized egg would remain attached, and no woman would ever have complications during pregnancy. But that's not what happens, is it?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, and some women with a perfect uterus, attached eggs, and no possible complications still kill their children.
     
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    Wow, so you know what God should care about? Excuse us your majesty.
     
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    He's right, god commits the vast majority of abortions. Of course it's stupid to be against welfare and abortion.
     
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    Why does god commit so many abortions if it is against it?
     
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    He doesn’t. Nor does he cause traffic accidents, cancer, or hurricanes. Odd argument.
     
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    Who says God does it?

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    Quoted for posterity.
    And hundreds of millions of fertilized eggs have been lost through miscarriage because of imperfectly designed reproductive systems.
     
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    If you believe god is omnipotent - then he does. He would have known the entirety of the human condition at the moment of creation. He could have altered that outcome, but he did not.

    So either He is omnipotent - or He is not.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A wonderful tribute.

    My two wives never at any point called our children in the womb, fetus. We called our daughters in the womb, our babies. We loved those girls. Both moms are gone now but i love both of our daughters. Both daughters have wonderful children. What a blessing we did not think of them as fetus.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two different things innit?

    Welfare means taking a neighbor's money to use it on others.

    Abortion means sex was wanted but the baby can go to hell and rot.

    nothing at all alike.
     
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    Well, god has to do everything. Or else there is no god. Which is actually true.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not clear what you mean by omnipotent but none of my religious beliefs sound that way.

    Omnipotent to me means he created a magnificent universe and how we use it is up to us.
     
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    He has to cause all of those things else it isn't a god.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This stuff about GOD is just a diversion.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hell for that matter, now you sound like Singer does when he argues that up to a particular age, the parents retain the right to kill the child. As long as it is not an adult, they are totally responsible for it. And hell, many kids die each year which makes it okay.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, for the hell of it, let's say there is no universe and life has not happened. May as well go wild speculation.

    But this actually happened. There was no universe and no life. What magic changed that?

    GOD

    Ignore GOD of the Bible, with or without the book, GOD exists. Man in his imperfect fashion wanted to record him in books. But let that not cause you to stop knowing GOD exists and sent Jesus to Earth as our savior. I guess he changed his plans from the old testament.
     
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    Well abortion means the baby doesn't suffer. Being against abortion and welfare means you hate babies of course.
     
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    Well, yeah, god is of course nonsense. But If you believe in god, you have to believe abortion is a good thing. Actually you have to believe a lot of stupid things.
     
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    Good point, the fact that a god needs a new testament is of course stupid and means we are not talking about a god. Just human nonsense.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No connection. That is like saying that because I understand Chemistry, i therefore approve smoking pot.
     
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    Who commits all of those abortions then?
     
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    Couldn't that be adapted into an argument for murder? Why does God commit so many accidental deaths if he's so against murder?

    I'm not religious, I am pro-choice, but not for me or my family. I will always push to raise it or at least adopt it out. If my partner wants otherwise there's nothing to do but it'd probably be a red line for me and ruin the relationship.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sound like Singer.
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017...that-it-might-be-okay-to-rape-disabled-people

     

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