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  1. Etbauer

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    Yes of course. All bad things have to be god's fault or else it isn't a god.
     
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    I learned this the hard way. When the women you love abort the child, it ends up killing the relationship. And not over what the man does, it is what the woman does. She loses interest in the man that got her pregnant and she killed her child.
     
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    Why divert from the facts of Abortion to discussing GOD? Singer does not mention GOD that I know about.
     
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    because if you believe in a god, you can't honestly argue that anything is wrong.
     
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    You aren’t allowing for the third option.
     
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    There we split partner. I do not believe wrong is tied to GOD. If you do, then we part ways.
     
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    which is?
     
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    Well,you can agree with me or you can be wrong. But, obviously if you believe in a god, you are ok with being wrong.
     
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    I’ll admit this made me laugh.
     
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    That’s an incorrect understanding of the relationship between God and mankind in their current state. Does God cause all good things to happen as well or only bad in your construct?
     
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    Well, a god has to be responsible for everything or else it isn't a god. So yes it is responsible for good things too. It's of course impossible.
     
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    Are we discussing the god of the Bible or another?
     
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    Reverse that.
     
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    Any god that is all-powerful has to be evil.
     
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    Right, but my point of view is based on reality. You can't believe in a good god and live in this reality. It's purely impossible.
     
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    Are you responsible for everything your children do? A god can’t exist at the same time as free will? Why is it impossible? Be specific.
     
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    Explain.
     
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    I'm not a god. To some extent, I am responsible for everything my children do, but, if I were a god, (ie all knowing and all powerful) then I would be responsible for absolutely everything they did.
     
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    Because simply, if you are all powerful, everything is your fault. Or else you aren't all powerful. Nothing can happen if you don't want it to.
     
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    So because you would choose to be an authoritarian god any god must conform to your ideas?
     
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    So if God cared about the world that would be perfect? Why?
     
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    No, it is not true.
     
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    If you are all powerful your power to choose and let others choose disappears? Hmmm.
     
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    Listen to me. I have a supreme IQ. I do not accept what you said. I am not bragging. I am saying if anybody can grasp your weird statement and comprehend it, it is me. I do not follow what you said at all. Another poster put it to you like this. When your child nails a 3 throw playing basketball, did you do it? When you shoot one yourself, should your father take the credit?

    You linked GOD to everything. I do not link GOD to every act man does.
     

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