The Climate Alarmist 97% Lie !!!

DDT · Apr 30, 2019

The 97% statistic that all Climate Scientist agree Man is primarily responsible for Anthropogenic Global Warming first appeared in 2009i in a study by University of Illinois master student Kendall Zimmerman and her advisor Peter Doran. It was a two question survey and only 5% of the people who answered ,a little over 150 , were actual Climate Scientists. The 97% comes from an even smaller sub-set of 79 people who were self-professed Climate Scientists with 50% of their research being conducted on the subject of Climate Change. So that 97% figure originally came from 79 Scientist who agreed that the Earth’s temperature has risen since the 1800’s and that Humans are likely a contributing factor. People used this Number and ran with it. When the evidence was running a little thin and people started questioning it in 2013 Australian blogger John Cook and his buddies reviewed some abstracts of peer reviewed papers published between 1991 to 2011. What were his findings ? :Coincidently that exactly 97% of Scientist either explicitly or implicitly made the assertion that Humans were somewhat responsible for warming not even Climate Change ,BUT WARMING, his work was debunked as CRAP in Science and Education I August 2013. For example, David R Legates ( a professor at the University of Delaware and frmer director of it’s Center for Climatic Research) and three coauthors reviewed the same papers as did Mr. Cook and found “ only 41 papers—0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.o percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion , and not 97.1 percent--- had been found to endorse” the claim that human Activity is causing most of the current warming. Elsewhere , climate scientists including Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir J. Shaviv and Nils-Axel Morner. Whose research questions the alleged consensus, protested that Mr. Cook ignored or misrepresented their work.
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MolonLabe2009 · Apr 30, 2019

It's not 97% of ALL climate scientist. It's 97% of climate scientist that participated in the faux survey.

HereWeGoAgain · Apr 30, 2019

DDT said: ↑

The 97% statistic that all Climate Scientist agree Man is primarily responsible for Anthropogenic Global Warming first appeared in 2009i in a study by University of Illinois master student Kendall Zimmerman and her advisor Peter Doran. It was a two question survey and only 5% of the people who answered ,a little over 150 , were actual Climate Scientists. The 97% comes from an even smaller sub-set of 79 people who were self-professed Climate Scientists with 50% of their research being conducted on the subject of Climate Change. So that 97% figure originally came from 79 Scientist who agreed that the Earth’s temperature has risen since the 1800’s and that Humans are likely a contributing factor. People used this Number and ran with it. When the evidence was running a little thin and people started questioning it in 2013 Australian blogger John Cook and his buddies reviewed some abstracts of peer reviewed papers published between 1991 to 2011. What were his findings ? :Coincidently that exactly 97% of Scientist either explicitly or implicitly made the assertion that Humans were somewhat responsible for warming not even Climate Change ,BUT WARMING, his work was debunked as CRAP in Science and Education I August 2013. For example, David R Legates ( a professor at the University of Delaware and frmer director of it’s Center for Climatic Research) and three coauthors reviewed the same papers as did Mr. Cook and found “ only 41 papers—0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.o percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion , and not 97.1 percent--- had been found to endorse” the claim that human Activity is causing most of the current warming. Elsewhere , climate scientists including Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir J. Shaviv and Nils-Axel Morner. Whose research questions the alleged consensus, protested that Mr. Cook ignored or misrepresented their work.
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AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES
Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES
International Academies: Joint Statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

U.S. Global Change Research Program
"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

nra37922 · Apr 30, 2019

Twelve years I tell you, TWELVE YEARS...

MolonLabe2009 · Apr 30, 2019

HereWeGoAgain said: ↑

Stop reading crackpot sites. The world will make much more sense.

AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES
Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES
International Academies: Joint Statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

U.S. Global Change Research Program
"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
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These are all extreme left-wing organizations who want a global government controlling the masses via taxes and regulations.

Stop falling for this globalism crap.

DDT · Apr 30, 2019

HereWeGoAgain said: ↑

Stop reading crackpot sites. The world will make much more sense.

AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES
Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES
International Academies: Joint Statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

U.S. Global Change Research Program
"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
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Peer-reviewed skeptic papers that take a negative or explicitly doubtful position on human-caused global warming.

· Development of a multi-year climate prediction model
(Year: 2005, Journal: African Journals Online, Citations: 4)

Validity of climate change forecasting for public policy decision making
(Year: 2009, Journal: International Journal of Forecasting, Citations: 34)

· Polar bears of western Hudson Bay and climate change: Are warming spring air temperatures the ‘‘ultimate’’ survival control factor?
(Year: 2007, Journal: Ecological Complexity, Citations: 14)

· Global Warming: Soon & Baliunas
(Year: 2003, Journal: Progress in Physical Geography, Citations: 4)

· Proxy climatic and environmental changes of the past 1000 years
(Year: 2003, Journal: Climate Research, Citations: 64)

· Modeling climatic effects of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions: unknowns and uncertainties
(Year: 2001, Journal: Climate Research, Citations: 20)

· Calculating the climatic impacts of increased CO(2): The issue of model validation
(Year: 2000, Journal: Solar and Space Weather, Citations: 1)

· Climate hypersensitivity to solar forcing?
(Year: 2000, Journal: Annales Geophysicae, Citations: 20)

· Variations of solar coronal hole area and terrestrial lower tropospheric air temperature from 1979 to mid-1998: astronomical forcings of change in earth's climate?
(Year: 2000, Journal: New Astronomy, Citations: 34)

· Inference of solar irradiance variability from terrestrial temperature changes, 1880-1993: An astrophysical application of the sun-climate connection
(Year: 1996, Journal: Astrophysical Journal, Citations: 35)

· Evidence on the climate impact of solar variations
(Year: 1993, Journal: Energy, Citations: 7)

Climate Change: Dangers of a Singular Approach and Consideration of a Sensible Strategy
(Year: 2009, Journal: Energy & Environment , Citations: 14)

Polar bears of western Hudson Bay and climate change: Are warming spring air temperatures the ‘‘ultimate’’ survival control factor?
(Year: 2007, Journal: Ecological Complexity, Citations: 14)

· Analysis of adjustments to the United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) temperature database
(Year: 2002, Journal: Geophysical Research Letters, Citations: 6)

· Observed warming in cold anticyclones
(Year: 2000, Journal: Climate Research, Citations: 1

· The relationship between near-surface air temperature over land and the annual amplitude of the atmosphere's seasonal CO2 cycle
(Year: 1999, Journal: Environmental and Experimental Botany, Citations: 5)

· Analysis of trends in the variability of daily and monthly historical temperature measurements
(Year: 1998, Journal: Climate Research, Citations: 22)

· Anthropo-generated Climate Change in Europe
(Year: 1992, Journal: Environmental Conservation , Citations: 4)

· Climatic-Change in Britain - Is SO2 More Significant than CO2
(Year: 1992, Journal: Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Citations: 6)

· Greenhouse Warming May Moderate British Storminess
(Year: 1991, Journal: Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics, Citations: 2)

· Surface Air-Temperature Response to Increasing Global Industrial Productivity - A Beneficial Greenhouse-Effect
(Year: 1991, Journal: Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Citations: 9)

EyesWideOpen · Apr 30, 2019

Yeah, you see, the planet's climate was supposed to remain in the era of the Little Ice-Age for all of eternity, and never get any warmer. That's it. Any increase in global temperatures beyond those averages recorded during the late 18th century or early 19th century, are abnormal.

Golem · Apr 30, 2019

DDT said: ↑

The 97% statistic that all Climate Scientist agree Man is primarily responsible for Anthropogenic Global Warming first appeared in 2009i in a study by University of Illinois master student Kendall Zimmerman and her advisor Peter Doran. It was a two question survey and only 5% of the people who answered ,a little over 150 , were actual Climate Scientists. The 97% comes from an even smaller sub-set of 79 people who were self-professed Climate Scientists with 50% of their research being conducted on the subject of Climate Change. So that 97% figure originally came from 79 Scientist who agreed that the Earth’s temperature has risen since the 1800’s and that Humans are likely a contributing factor. People used this Number and ran with it. When the evidence was running a little thin and people started questioning it in 2013 Australian blogger John Cook and his buddies reviewed some abstracts of peer reviewed papers published between 1991 to 2011. What were his findings ? :Coincidently that exactly 97% of Scientist either explicitly or implicitly made the assertion that Humans were somewhat responsible for warming not even Climate Change ,BUT WARMING, his work was debunked as CRAP in Science and Education I August 2013. For example, David R Legates ( a professor at the University of Delaware and frmer director of it’s Center for Climatic Research) and three coauthors reviewed the same papers as did Mr. Cook and found “ only 41 papers—0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.o percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion , and not 97.1 percent--- had been found to endorse” the claim that human Activity is causing most of the current warming. Elsewhere , climate scientists including Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir J. Shaviv and Nils-Axel Morner. Whose research questions the alleged consensus, protested that Mr. Cook ignored or misrepresented their work.
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What nonsense! Science has nothing to do with opinions. It has to do with facts!

It makes absolutely no difference what scientists believe. In Science, the only thing that matters is what they can prove. through peer-reviewed scientific studies that use the Scientific Method.

And among those, 100% of Studies in the last 20 years (at least) agree that 1- Global Warming is happening 2- That it's cause by Human Activity and 3- That the consequences will be negative for the human Society.

EyesWideOpen · Apr 30, 2019

MolonLabe2009 said: ↑

These are all extreme left-wing organizations who want a global government controlling the masses via taxes and regulations.

Stop falling for this globalism crap.
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Funny how agencies funded by the government, all agree with the global warmists that we need to turn our lives and wealth over to government, and allow them to have complete control over all of our industries, our economies, and tell us how to live our lives.

Oh, and we only have ten years in which to act to prevent global warming, or it will be too late. Of course they have been telling us every ten years, since the 1970s, that we only have ten years in which to act, or it will be too late. Every ten years, they tell us we only have ten years, then they reset the clocks for ten years, rinse, repeat.

Golem · Apr 30, 2019

DDT said: ↑

Peer-reviewed skeptic papers that take a negative or explicitly doubtful position on human-caused global warming.
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Quote the negative or explicitly doubtful position on human caused global warming on a single peer-reviews paper in the last 20 years.

The matter was put to rest some 20 years ago (at least). There is not even a debate in Science.

There is a Scientific Consensus

1- Global Warming exists 2- It is caused by Human Activity 3- Consequences for Human communities will be dire if left unchecked.

There is no 97% ... nothing.

There is 100% of studies in (at least) the last 20 years.

So if you are still a Science denier... you are living over 20 years in the past.

Denying this is like denying that the Earth is round. The Theory of Evolution. The Theory of Gravity . Relativity. Quantum Physics.... It's just settled science.

doombug · Apr 30, 2019

Are these the same idiots who claimed the world would be flooded a decade ago?

DDT · Apr 30, 2019

MolonLabe2009 said: ↑

These are all extreme left-wing organizations who want a global government controlling the masses via taxes and regulations.

Stop falling for this globalism crap.
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· Historical Temperature Trends in the United-States and the Effect of Urban-Population Growth
(Year: 1989, Journal: Journal of Geophysical Research, Citations: 35)

Climate stability: an inconvenient proof

· Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature
(Year: 2009, Journal: Journal of Geophysical Research, Citations: 6)

(Year: 0000, Citations: 0

· Greenhouse gases and greenhouse effect
(Year: 2009, Journal: Environmental Geology, Citations: 1)

· On global forces of nature driving the Earth's climate. Are humans involved?
(Year: 2006, Journal: Environmental Geology, Citations: 9)

· Global warming and long-term climatic changes: a progress report
(Year: 2004, Journal: Environmental Geology, Citations:

Cloud and radiation budget changes associated with tropical intraseasonal oscillations
(Year: 2007, Journal: Geophysical Research Letters, Citations: 19)

· Reasoning about climate uncertainty
(Year: 2011, Journal: Climatic Change, Citations: 0)

Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature
(Year: 2009, Journal: Journal of Geophysical Research, Citations: 6)

· Climate forcing by the volcanic eruption of Mount Pinatubo
(Year: 2005, Journal: Geophysical Research Letters, Citations: 0)

Multidecadal Tendencies in ENSO and Global Temperatures Related to Multidecadal Oscillations
(Year: 2010, Journal: Energy & Environment , Citations: 0)

· Analysis of adjustments to the United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) temperature database
(Year: 2002, Journal: Geophysical Research Letters, Citations: 6)

· The relationship between near-surface air temperature over land and the annual amplitude of the atmosphere's seasonal CO2 cycle
(Year: 1999, Journal: Environmental and Experimental Botany, Citations: 5)

· Anthropo-generated Climate Change in Europe
(Year: 1992, Journal: Environmental Conservation , Citations: 4)

Calculating the climatic impacts of increased CO(2): The issue of model validation
(Year: 2000, Journal: Solar and Space Weather, Citations: 1)

The relationship between near-surface air temperature over land and the annual amplitude of the atmosphere's seasonal CO2 cycle
(Year: 1999, Journal: Environmental and Experimental Botany, Citations: 5)

CO2-induced global warming: a skeptic's view of potential climate change
(Year: 1998, Journal: Climate Research, Citations: 10)

Anthropo-generated Climate Change in Europe
(Year: 1992, Journal: Environmental Conservation , Citations: 4)

Climatic-Change in Britain - Is SO2 More Significant than CO2
(Year: 1992, Journal: Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Citations: 6)

Greenhouse Warming May Moderate British Storminess
(Year: 1991, Journal: Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics, Citations: 2)

Surface Air-Temperature Response to Increasing Global Industrial Productivity - A Beneficial Greenhouse-Effect
(Year: 1991, Journal: Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Citations: 9)

Historical Temperature Trends in the United-States and the Effect of Urban-Population Growth
(Year: 1989, Journal: Journal of Geophysical Research, Citations: 35)

· Greenhouse gases and greenhouse effect
(Year: 2009, Journal: Environmental Geology, Citations: 1)

· On global forces of nature driving the Earth's climate. Are humans involved?
(Year: 2006, Journal: Environmental Geology, Citations: 9)

Global warming and long-term climatic changes: a progress report

Golem · Apr 30, 2019

doombug said: ↑

Are these the same idiots who claimed the world would be flooded a decade ago?
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I don't know. But I'm sure the Global Warming denialists are the same idiots who claim that children shouldn't vaccinate against the measles, which has given us an outbreak that has not been seen in 50 years

Science deniers show the same kind of ignorance.

navigator2 · Apr 30, 2019

nra37922 said: ↑

Twelve years I tell you, TWELVE YEARS...
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Let's just cut to the chase. 100% of Climatologists know "Climate's gonna climate". It doesn't make two shits whether man is here or not. Scientists have proven the earth has been through both global warming AND and an ice age with no presence of man in sight. Yet the hand wringing Chicken Little types think somehow ending hamburgers, big sodas, motor cars, reasonably comfortable homes cooled and heated by electricity are somehow going to escalate Mother Nature into some sort of frenzy. WE MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF TAX to end these innovations to make us all 3rd World Nations. The UN has concluded as such in Agenda 21, and damn it all............we missed the Faux Paris Accord!

Belch · Apr 30, 2019

I'm pretty sure that AGW is a complete crock, but I would also agree that human's have an effect upon global warming.

It's called the observer effect which states that observation affects the outcome. The most notable of this is the double slit experiment.

Distraff · Apr 30, 2019

DDT said: ↑

The 97% statistic that all Climate Scientist agree Man is primarily responsible for Anthropogenic Global Warming first appeared in 2009i in a study by University of Illinois master student Kendall Zimmerman and her advisor Peter Doran. It was a two question survey and only 5% of the people who answered ,a little over 150 , were actual Climate Scientists. The 97% comes from an even smaller sub-set of 79 people who were self-professed Climate Scientists with 50% of their research being conducted on the subject of Climate Change. So that 97% figure originally came from 79 Scientist who agreed that the Earth’s temperature has risen since the 1800’s and that Humans are likely a contributing factor. People used this Number and ran with it. When the evidence was running a little thin and people started questioning it in 2013 Australian blogger John Cook and his buddies reviewed some abstracts of peer reviewed papers published between 1991 to 2011. What were his findings ? :Coincidently that exactly 97% of Scientist either explicitly or implicitly made the assertion that Humans were somewhat responsible for warming not even Climate Change ,BUT WARMING, his work was debunked as CRAP in Science and Education I August 2013. For example, David R Legates ( a professor at the University of Delaware and frmer director of it’s Center for Climatic Research) and three coauthors reviewed the same papers as did Mr. Cook and found “ only 41 papers—0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.o percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion , and not 97.1 percent--- had been found to endorse” the claim that human Activity is causing most of the current warming. Elsewhere , climate scientists including Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir J. Shaviv and Nils-Axel Morner. Whose research questions the alleged consensus, protested that Mr. Cook ignored or misrepresented their work.
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Its not surprising that they were only able to find 79 climate scientists. Only a very small number of people are climate scientists. Its interesting that out of the 79 climate scientists asked only 2 didn't believe humans were primary responsible for the warming. I would have expected more like 20-40 if there was a lot of skepticism.

As for the Legates paper, those 41 papers are those that very clearly stated the standard claim on climate change, that human activity is very likely causing most of the current warming. 23% of the 4,014 papers made an unqualified support in climate change supporting that humans are causing climate change without more detail into the probability. Further, 72.5% give an implicit support of human-caused climate change, by assuming that humans are the main cause. It sounds like he will needs a very specific endorsement with the right wording and that requirement is a little ridiculous, because all we really need is a general endorement of some kind.

Another problem is that you are ignoring other studies into the percent of scientists who agree humans are causing climate change all that show that the vast majority of climate scientists agree humans are causing climate change:
Verheggen et al., 2014
Powell, 2013
Lefsrud and Meyer, 2012
Farnsworth and Lichter, 2011
Anderegg, Prall, Harold, and Schneider, 2010
Bray and von Storch, 2008
STATS, 2007
Oreskes, 2004
Bray and von Storch, 2003

kriman · Apr 30, 2019

Golem said: ↑

And among those, 100% of Studies in the last 20 years (at least) agree that 1- Global Warming is happening 2- That it's cause by Human Activity and 3- That the consequences will be negative for the human Society.
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An ignorant statement at best. Global warming may or may not be happening based on how it is measured. There are probably at least a thousand ways to measure it with a thousand different answers. Whether it will be negative for human society depends on which human society you pick and how you rate the consequences. It is a fact that some people believe humans would be better off, if their were fewer of us.

TCassa89 · Apr 30, 2019

MolonLabe2009 said: ↑

These are all extreme left-wing organizations who want a global government controlling the masses via taxes and regulations.

Stop falling for this globalism crap.
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Feel free to share a right wing scientific society with everyone

kriman · Apr 30, 2019

TCassa89 said: ↑

Feel free to share a right wing scientific society with everyone
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That should be the point. There should be no right wing or left wing slants.

Distraff · Apr 30, 2019

EyesWideOpen said: ↑

Yeah, you see, the planet's climate was supposed to remain in the era of the Little Ice-Age for all of eternity, and never get any warmer. That's it. Any increase in global temperatures beyond those averages recorded during the late 18th century or early 19th century, are abnormal.
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It is actually warmer than the little ice age. The argument is that humans are causing very rapid climate change, not that all change is bad.

TCassa89 · Apr 30, 2019

kriman said: ↑

That should be the point. There should be no right wing or left wing slants.
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Could it be that some people will dismiss any scientific study they find inconvenient as "left wing"?

Tim15856 · May 1, 2019

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922. As reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post — 88 years ago!
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Quantum Nerd · May 1, 2019

MolonLabe2009 said: ↑

These are all extreme left-wing organizations who want a global government controlling the masses via taxes and regulations.

Stop falling for this globalism crap.
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Haha! The AAAS only publishes the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, Science. The ACS is the world's largest chemistry society. I am member of the ACS. I tell you, they are no left wing organization. They just advocate for advancement of Chemistry is research and education, mostly to the benefit of their members and society as a whole.

Educate yourself before you spout such nonsense.

spiritgide · May 1, 2019

MolonLabe2009 said: ↑

It's not 97% of ALL climate scientist. It's 97% of climate scientist that participated in the faux survey.
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Which probably included AOC and Beto, posing as climate scientists....

drluggit · May 1, 2019

nra37922 said: ↑

Twelve years I tell you, TWELVE YEARS...
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Wasn't that 12 years, a couple months ago?? ELEVEN Years.. Eleven....

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