What's the purpose of Life ?

I think it's quite individual people make their own purpose for their life.

 

So we have to kill a lot of Egyptians and perhaps create a flood to basically kills everything on the planet except selected pairs. And then condemn everyone who doesn't believe in a crap god to eternal suffering. Is anyone actually stupid enough to believe that nonsense.

 

I don't deny that, and I was interested by how you invidually give purpose to life.

 

Everything I do I mean to do. I tried to put others first, sometimes it's hard and sometimes others insist on me being concerned with myself.

 

That is too funny. There are at least two dozen named Gods in the Bible. Some were idols. The Gods called Jealous, Yahweh, Jehovah, and Adonai were simply the series of emperors and chief priests who ruled the dominant Middle Eastern empires during ancient times. Then there is the Yeshua (Jesus) character. Some were crazier than others but they were all lunatics. Not one of them ever did anything godly in scope. The Old Testament God character bit the dust around 530 BC when the Babylonian Empire collapsed and its emperor died. He is never coming back. And neither is the Jesus character.

 

Even the people who supposedly saw those miracles firsthand didn't believe in them. So why do you believe when you never saw them?

 

The ancient Egyptian god Horus did ALL of the above BEFORE your jesus came along.

 

Dear @Paul7 and @tecoyah
It does not contradict there being one universal God or source of life
AND a variety of names and aspects worshipped of this one same God.

Buddhists may call upon the name of God as WISDOM.

Atheists and secular humanists who take a nontheistic approach
may focus on TRUTH or Universal laws of nature as the meaning
behind God's laws, but without personifying this as an anthropomorphized figure or deity.

Christians tend to focus on God's LOVE,
or the Kingdom of God as Heavenly PEACE.

UU translate the concepts in the "Trinity" as Truth Justice and Peace
for all humanity.

@tecoyah just because there are different religious languages for
the laws and concepts, doesn't mean these can't all be right.
They can all be relative ways of expressing the one universal truth
behind all of them that they each attempt to communicate in their own local terms.

@Paul7 it does not negate the one true God to have multiple tongues
and local laws for expressing these. All tribes are called to confess
the Truth in the spirit of Jesus or Justice for All. So universal Truth
is the same as God's Truth, Laws or Word; and the central agreement
for Justice sake is the same as faith in Jesus saving all humanity;
so this brings lasting Peace and comfort which is the Holy Spirit.

There is one truth governing all humanity. And that doesn't negate
the fact that different tribes and religious systems may use different
names and terms to express God and God's truth and laws collectively.

SEE also Colossians 1:16 where God's Laws as made incarnate through
Jesus or Divine Justice as the Lord of all lords means Universal authority of LAW over all other laws that are governed thereunder:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

In Christ Jesus, there is no contradiction between universal absolute laws and relative local laws that are also fulfilled by God's universal truth and justice. This is like how we can have both a global set of Constitutional laws that govern our entire nation, as well as local State laws that have individual sovereignty and authority separate from the other States, and all the States are still subject to the national Constitution as the central authority. This does not contradict the State laws that are all different, yet are still governed within the Constitutional structure and process of the whole nation.

 

@Derideo_Te
Jesus represents Universal Justice for all humanity collectively.
Horus is a localized symbol, and not universal for everyone.

When we say Equal Justice Under Law, that's another manifestation of
"Jesus as Lord of all" but it doesn't represent Horus.

When we talk about Restorative Justice, that's another name for Christ Jesus, not Horus.

Peace and Justice, and Justice with Mercy are also
names for Jesus and the Holy Spirit, not Horus.

One represents the universal level, the other is a more localized tribal reference that some may relate to but it isn't the authority for all people.

Universal Justice by definition means it extends to all humanity throughout existence. That is what the name JESUS refers to, by definition, in order
to be the Messiah or Message of saving grace for all people.

 

If we assume an afterlife, there are probably several purposes to life.

Maybe one of them is to irrefutably demonstrate how flawed we are.

Another is to give us some small responsibilities, so we can, in some ways, emulate the character of the creator.

The last purpose only applies to some individuals, and is to justify destroying their souls. A just and righteous creator cannot destroy souls until those souls are given an opportunity to do something that deserves it.
Probably more merciful than putting them all together in their own separate designated place, which would turn out to be a living hell.

 

What a pleasant, caring and intelligent creator we have.....NOT.

 

Your life is its own purpose Ayn Rand

 

There's no other solution for evil people, other than taking away their choice which would effectively make them slaves in a gilded cage.

Besides, sometimes righteousness is not the "pleasant, caring" thing to the offending party.
It is caring for the victims, though.

Imagine a bunch of murderous sadistic psychopaths locked together in a prison, and you complaining that's not "pleasant".
Well obviously your government can't even seem to do what you accuse God of not doing, isn't that correct?

Your thesis seems to be "God must be evil because everything's not pleasant".
Guess I shouldn't be so surprised, very entitled attitude.

 

Okay...so apparently I am evil and deserving of punishment according to you and God. Hmmm...I'm guessing if a poll was taken about which of us was a nicer person, you would not fare well....therein lies the real issue in that YOU seem to be deciding for God and You.

I could have sworn your books said something about judging.

 

sounds like moral relativism

(i.e. Rand isn't any more inherently right than someone who completely disagrees with her)

 

Might not be a good idea if human nature is inherently evil.

 

Remember, the Third Law of Thermodynamics is actually not a fundamental universal law.

There may be quantum processes that allow the "arrow of time" to go back (in reference to the concept of entropy).

 

Well the only alternative is state-sanctioned destiny.

 

Dear @tecoyah
If you equate God with Life,
doesn't life offer as many positive benefits as it does negative?
Isn't Life what we make of it?

Isn't having the FREEDOM and creativity to make the most of life
a positive enough aspect in itself?

Sure it can be used for destruction, but if you look at the world and
what makes people happiest, don't you see as much positive going on
with the resources LIFE brings us?

Doesn't the GOOD in Life make it worthwhile despite the bad that happens as well?

 

Read My Sig....and that's a big IF.

 

Dear @kazenatsu
I might agree with you if you stated this as humans are inherently
SELFISH.

We are motivated by both FEAR which is negative
and LOVE which is positive.

We want to AVOID SUFFERING and avoiding what we fear or don't want,
and we want SATISFACTION and security in getting what we want.

Aren't both sides what motivate human behavior?

And what laws and religions attempt to do is to motivate
a healthy balance and order between individual rights/will
and collective responsibility and public interest. How to balance both.

The religious/spiritual approach is to teach how to reconcile these in harmony
so you can maximize both the individual and the collective benefits.

The law/govt approach is to protect people from abuse, injustice and oppression
that otherwise violates individual rights, freedom and due process and equal protections.

Believing in God is believing that good will and truth prevails over ill will and falsehood.
That Love overcomes fear, and wisdom brings understanding to combat ignorance,

Faith in Jesus is faith that Universal Justice applies to all people EQUALLY,
to bring peace. Through Knowledge of the laws that EMPOWER people
to live by justice and peace so we help each other as neighbors to achieve and sustain this in society.

If it weren't for religions teaching people to do this out of free will and respect
for GOD or GREATER GOOD WILL for ALL HUMANITY,
we end up with disasters that people turn to Govt to try to fix.
That clearly overburdens the system because we can't fix everything that way.

The best way is for each person to take responsibility for defending
truth, peace and justice around us in our own relationships, so we
share this responsibility and make the world better by doing what we can around us.

That prevents huge groups from trying to take charge, either by abusing religious authority of churches
or abusing political authority of the state, to control masses of people suffering oppression.

If we solve these problems ourselves, then we liberate humanity.

That is why religions try to teach people to be responsible in the first place.

It's because human nature has both good and bad that we try our
best to teach and help each other use the good to check and correct the bad.

 

My point was neither the state nor the individual can achieve nirvana.

Perfection mixed with imperfection is doomed to failure.
It only takes one faulty part to make a machine broken.

Not to say everything needs to be absolutely perfect, but just emphasizing the importance that there not be any major flaws, however small, or however much else is good.

 

oh well I'm sorry I don't know anything about Nirvana except for that album bleach it was pretty good.

 

Ok, replace it with utopia, heavenly kingdom, etc

 

I'm sorry I don't understand what any of that has to do with my statement.