Alabama Senate passes bill banning nearly all abortions /MOD WARNING

a mutation is a mutation, that is the definition, and it certainly doesnt have to be a human life.

 

If they lose in the lower court they can appeal to the appellate court if they lose in the appellate court they can appeal to the SCOTUS. Alabama is not filing the initial lawsuit but the state legislature passed the bill so someone would, someone who has standing to file the lawsuit. Standing only applies to who is doing the suing. Alabama has "standing" to defend the state.

 

Will DUH it would be a human mutation and still human. Geez you don't even know if you were ever a zygote and you are trying to now argue biology.

 

We as a society do millions of times everyday through our laws.

 

Dodge noted

 

Like who? Alabama have no standing to appeal to the SCOTUS. Defend from what??

 

Are cancer cells human?

 

Mutated human cells.

 

So you agree the Alabama senate made a wrong call. A call made by bunch of white men about women.

 

if it mutates it no longer has human dna, hence mutation !!!!

btw, you still havent responsed to the miscarriage issue, too tough to answer.

 

i applaud any legislative move to protect the life of the most innocent among us, that being of unborn babies, of course. but i do make an exception in the case of rape, so, yes to the extent the alabama legislation restricts a rape victim’s access to an abortion, i will say they made the wrong call.

however, my preference would be for the baby to be delivered and offered for adoption to a loving family. but i can’t make that decision for someone who has been brutally assaulted in such a vile manner. that is between her and god.

that said, i’d like to suggest the best thing to do would be to prevent the rape in the first place. for example if someone tried to rape me, they’d get know what it feels like to have your brain blown out the back of your skull through the very large hole my .357JHP will make. i have told you i will support a rape victim’s right to end her rapist’s pregnancy. will you support my right to keep and bear the tools i need to defend myself from a rapist twice my size? significantly reducing the chances that i’ll ever be faced with making such a difficult and terrible decision...

 

You think a child age 13 should have a weapon in case a priests or a father wants to rape it?

 

you did not answer my question. i answered yours, please return the courtesy.

 

You already have the right to arm yourself. So yes.

Now, Do you believe we should start issuing weapons to small children?

 

So you will defend the 2nd Amendment against infringement by people like Gavin Newsome, Kate Bown, Jay Inslee, who very much would like to disarm me if they could. Our neighboring state of Oregon is about to go off a cliff if the antigunners get their wishes. We live 30 minutes from the state line but rarely cross it as, even though our state honors an Oregon CHL, they do not honor ours.

Straw man. Who has suggested issuing weapons to small children?

 

Really? How many chromosomes does a human have?

Does foetus with trisomy (extra chromosome) still classify as human?

https://www.genome.gov/15515096/200...finds-chimps-humans-very-similar-at-dna-level

 

Bit weird to think only adults may protect themselves, so even out the playing field when a much larger rapist shows up.
Children are... "usually" a lot smaller than an adult raper.

 

I love people who think that adoption is the answer

Seems quite a few are math deficient

https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-statistics


There are over half a million abortions each year. Where will you get the people willing to adopt?

 

you’re not going to answer my question. thought we were dealing in good faith. have a good day.

 

Women have been charged with various crimes stemming from substance abuse during their pregnancy and also for giving birth to drug addicted babies?

At what point do fetuses have rights?

And whether or not conservatives support welfare for the newborns is irrelevant. I don't support welfare for anybody, but I don't want them being murdered.

 

adoption is one part of a solution. sounds like you are trying to disingenuously suggest i am claiming it is the only solution. and if one innocent life is saved because one gal found it in her heart to courageously face the pain and angst of carrying a rapist’s baby to term, i can guarantee you god will smile upon her.

also, i’d like to point out a fallacy you may have accidentally posted: you reference 500,000 abortions. but we are talking specifically about rape pregnancies, which number about 25,000 or just over 5% of all rapes. well, that’s quite a different story. i recommend not smoking near that straw man!

 

Thats what late term abortion is though.

 

More than that they have been charged with murder for having a miscarriage

 

No I am trying to inject logic into the argument

If it is OK to abort When rape was the cause of the pregnancy why is it not OK when consensual sex was the cause? The only real difference is intent at the beginning

 

We took a few steps back from the cliff this past week. The GOP state senators sold their soul over the business tax deal and got a commitment from the Dems to not push any gun control bills through in the near future. I just hope the few steps back are not just so they can get a running start.