Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Firing up the base of uninformed people by lying and reinventing history is Trump's mantra and they eat it for lunch.
     
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    Mueller proved that Trump is innocent. Everyone - including those who pretend they don't - knows this.

    Which is not to say that we are not all very surprised by that outcome. ;-)
     
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    I see...so Trump is no longer President? I had not heard that.
     
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    Sorry but firing up the base is not obstruction. Nice try though.
     
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    You cleverly snuck in successful as a modifier to coup d'état
     
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  6. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    DUH! I was replying to another post, but thank you SO much for the input.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    A lot of lawmakers are indeed paying attention to the Constitution and have studied it quite vigorously, rather than soundbite it as you are doing. The interpretation of the Constitution by Constitutional scholars has been going on forever.
     
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    Damn, Damn, Damn. It sho id their bidness if he has been fraudulent, ya?
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I cleverly supplied the definition.
    "A coup d'état, also known as a putsch, a golpe, or simply as a coup, means the overthrow of an existing government; typically, this refers to an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a dictator, the military, or a political faction."
     
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    Gee, thanks for the advice.
     
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    Ho Ho. They are not using their oversight powers to punish anyone. It is Trump who is destroying our system of government. Go back to school and learn something rather than letting this con man influence you.
     
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    Your initial argument was that Trump's complaints about the investigation constituted obstruction, which it obviously doesn't. You then wandered into his complaints firing up the base. Guess you've given up on any evidence of the obstruction thingy.
     
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    I recall like it is today how Democrats were hot on the trail of Obama and Hillary and Lerner and Holder and Lynch.

    They were furious that they were not going to prison.

    Yes they sure wanted justice to be served. :roll::roll::roll: :roflol:
     
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    You should read the court's decision.
     
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    My opinion is that it's extremely ridiculous to promote the notion that Trump is a brilliant Russian secret agent while also being a racist, Nazi, white-supremacist, woman-hating moron.
     
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    That is precisely what happened in Ukraine triggering the popular revolt of Crimea. It keeps the war going vs the East Ukraine.

    We were promised by Democrats prior to trump being sworn that they formed the resistance.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/womens-march.html

    Women’s March Highlights as Huge Crowds Protest Trump: ‘We’re Not Going Away’

    One day in office and millions showed up to scream at
    Trump. And the screaming women were applauded by the media.
     
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    Interesting post. Naturally, as a liberal Democrat, I disagree with your feelings toward Reagan, but I certainly respect your opinion. I do credit Reagan for helping end the Cold War, which was no small accomplishment. But economically, I feel trickle-down was a huge mistake that has led us to the horrible economic disparity we have today. Anyway, a few scattered thoughts. . .
    1. I was excited to vote for Obama, partly because he was our first black President, and I felt I was part of that historic event. I imagined his tenure as a recovery from the miserable years of GW Bush, with his incessant wars & massive hidden deficits. The Bush years were intensely uncomfortable for me, and I was looking forward to relief from that stress under Obama. But the Great Recession hit in about August, just before the election, and it began sinking in that the economy was broken even before the election, and certainly before the inauguration. I watched with ever increasing anxiety, every sliver of hope for positive economic change gradually disappear into the black hole of that recession. By the time of the inaugural, I knew Obama was doomed to babysitting the economy, & every program I had hoped for funding, was equally doomed. Thus, the vigil began. And, it was painful. I regard Obama as possibly the President of highest moral & ethical character of any President in my life, & possibly history. I really liked him as a person--and his wife. Obama lived every moral & family value preached by conservative Republicans at that time, and I was always puzzled by their refusal to accept him. It didn't occur to me until Obama's last year in office that all the rejection of him & his Presidency could be based on unrelenting racism. That was a painful awakening for me.
    2. You find it appalling that Washington wasted 8 years fighting over tax issues, while I have spent an entire lifetime watching Republicans make tax issues their main reason for existing. It's almost like they are incapable of seeing anything else around them. Yes, Washington was part of that incredibly contradictory generation of Americans who claimed "all men are created equal," while maintaining a slave society.
    3. Jefferson is the all time conundrum. In his younger years, he supported ending slavery, but always felt he couldn't afford to actually free his slaves without facing financial ruin. After his wife's death (he promised her he'd never remarry), he carried on a serious affair with his wife's half sister & slave, for the rest of his life, even having children with her, that became his slaves. So, we have at least one slave owning President who enslaved his own offspring. Today, that seems very strange & very sick--especially for the author of the Declaration of Independence, which proclaimed to the world that "all men are created equal."
    4. Actually Abe Lincoln was very careful to avoid any action that could be interpreted as sufficient to start hostilities with the irascible South. He made sure the South was the clear culprit in initiating hostilities. Lincoln didn't have to deny the Southern state's rights to secession, but he chose to do so. The Civil War resulted. The South has never fully recovered from that secessionist mindset. Even today, it remains a section of our nation separate & distinct in its differences, and still the hotbed of racial, gender, ethnic, & political strife. The Civil War was the single worst war ever fought by this nation. More were killed in it than in all other U.S. wars combined. It ended slavery, but not racism, and the South's Jim Crow laws continued relegating blacks in the South to sub-human living standards & with no human rights. As Charlottesville recently demonstrated, those biases are still living & breathing there today, though at a much reduced level.
    5. Yes, Teddy was a live wire--good President in many ways, but frequently insensitive to the human frailties & fears of others around him.
    6. It's interesting to reflect on FDRs efforts to "pack the Supreme Court today, when Mitch McConnell & D. Trump have actually succeeded where FDR failed. Do we call that improvement, or is it an example of failing to learn from history?
     
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    No.

    Read the Mueller Report.

    It's not pretty.
     
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    Was the Munich putsch a coup d'etat?
     
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    That was clearly your claim.

    Are you now recanting your claim?
     
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    Political opposition research is seldom pretty.
     
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    Especially when it's not "political opposition research", and it's true.

    Read the Mueller Report.
     
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    Prison for what??
     
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    As I initially stated...that is not a coup.
     
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    A failed one....perhaps, But the attempted comparison makes my case not yours.Then we have the whole Bavaria angle which adds a whole new detail.
     
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