The coming civil war over abortion

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  1. vman12

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    Yeah that's called having standards and objectivity.

    Leftists should give it a try.

    Oh no, peer pressure in the last sentence.

    Give her the Amish treatment to teach her a lesson.
     
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    Immaculate conceptions?
     
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    They've sold that stuff out in exchange for cultish ideology and sneering elitism.
     
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    Here's the other thing they don't get:

    In leftism, one must agree with the group, and everything the group says, even if you don't like it.

    They can't fathom that two people can agree on some things, and disagree on others.
     
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    I invited the drinking, but I did not consent to the inebriation.

    There's a great line for drunk drivers.
     
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    That's hysterical coming from the Trump party...

    the person and the party that absolutely makes a pariah out of anyone who goes against the king.
     
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    Totes! All manner of consequences can be disclaimed by the guilty. Honk honk.
     
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    In my defense, it's hard to tell one NPC from the other.
     
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    People have protected sex all the time. Unfortunately it doesn't always work. Most of the time it does.

    Is it possible to drink and not get drunk ever?
     
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    That's it in a nutshell. They behave EXACTLY like sheltered old Baptists, who know nothing of other forms of Christianity - much less atheism. It's all shock and indignation.
     
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    :D
     
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    No they don't.

    The "withdrawal" method was used in 25% of cases of unintended pregnancy. Today it is over 60%.

    Withdrawal is not a method, even though it is listed as one.

    Yes, it's possible to drink and not get drunk ever.

    That's called personal responsibility.

    I know it's hard to fathom.
     
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    Sure, and humans have been successfully limiting family size since we came down from the trees. Yet somehow, the modern female variant cannot.
     
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    Use the term "unintended pregnancy" if it makes you feel better. It matters not to my argument. Obviously if a couple is using contraception a pregnancy is unintended. Obviously there are some cases - such as the condom breaking - where the pregnancy is an accident.

    You should start hanging around with women who are more intelligent. What do you want me to tell you. It is not some secret that the majority of anti aborts hold that position on the basis of religions belief/ religious prognostication.

    It does not take a rocked scientist to figure out that a single human cell (even if that single human cell is the mighty zygote) is not the same as a living human.

    Even a child can figure this out. Just play the game "which one is not like the other" present a picture of a Man, an Ape, and a zygote and see which picture the kid chooses. It is through programming - much of which is spawned by religious organizations - that people hold their beliefs.

    Do they no longer teach Human Taxonomy in High School Biology class ? You know - Characteristics of various organisms ? A human is a "Homo Sapiens" On the basis of Human Taxonomy - in order for an organism to be a "Homo Sapiens" that organism must have membership in - have the characteristics of - all the following clubs.

    Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus Species. A zygote has membership in none.

    I didn't invent the classification system. It is what it is. Obviously your friends did not understand high school biology. What else can account for their flawed beliefs ? Do they think the zygote has a soul ? That is a religious/Catholic Argument.

    If you want to get into College level stuff - The zygote will never be part of the human that is in the process of being created. It will never be one of the cells of the body of that human.

    Riddle me this one then Crank - How is it possible for a living human to exist when not a single cell in the body of that human exists ?
     
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    You're leaving out all the other methods and jumping to immaculate conception.

    All I'm doing is pointing out something that any pea brain knows.

    People ALL THE TIME have sex with no intention of getting pregnant.

    I suspect even pea brained right wing Trump supporters do that. They even get abortions all the time.
     
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    People have been having abortions long before the modern female (or male).

    Btw, what's with leaving all the stupid uncaring men out of the equation? All the men, including hypocritical right wing losers, who want women to get abortions or take the morning after pill, or the pill, or don't use a condom, etc.

    Females doing it all on their own?
     
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    Didn’t seem so. That being said...I’ll say it again...failed contraception.
     
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    Yes, but they KNOW pregnancy is caused by sex, so they KNOW what they are risking (if choosing to go commando).
     
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    Not a thing. Pregnancy is very easy to avoid. Every family in which there are less than a dozen kids is the result of planning (or in rare cases, infertility).
     
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    Our adversaries (in this debate) insist on exclusive and complete female autonomy.
     
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    Obviously, it's the woman's body.

    I'm just talking about the males role in it as far as being "irresponsible".
     
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    So you waited until marriage,

    and only did it to have children.

    Correct?
     
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    Absolutely. And the Dem crowd are all for funding PP, more comprehensive sex ed in schools and free condoms. Unfortunately, the Reps don't want that - they believe that 'abstinence only' programs are the way to lower teen pregnancy rates. And that isn't working. So please, share with me how you think we can lower pregnancy rates that actually work.
     
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    Pregnancy also easy to discontinue :)
     
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    So is parenthood. The only problem is that it sometimes requires murdering your children.
     
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